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Druidus Unregistered user |
Damn stone blocks, I had an awesome character going, and on ID2 she steps of the stairs and whack! A stone block falls on her head bringing her from 37/37HP to -20/37HP. Damn that sucked, I just stared in disbelief. She had gotten from a pool, lucky, fate smiles, teleport control (she knew the spell), random teleporting, TWO wishes (AoLS and Red Dragon Plate Mail) in a row, and she was acid resistant. I'm gonna cry now, she was only level five!!! ARGRGGGGG!!!! |
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Ferret Registered user Master Mindcrafter Last page view: 5877 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Sorry, but you should really have been wearing that amulet. Theres really no excuse, unless you were stuck with a cursed amulet at the time. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3764 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Many people don't wear the amulet... worn items are more susceptible to equipment destruction than items carried in your pack, especially if you have water- and fire-proof blankets. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7138 days, 14 hours, 10 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
And yet another excuse is the Preserver as (pre)crowning gift. Sure, those AoLS are pretty cools... but the Preserver is better choice in a long run. Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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Ferret Registered user Master Mindcrafter Last page view: 5877 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
I completly agree with the preserver point - i often choose preserver over AoLS, but the PC in question was only level 5, so i really doubt preserver had been found at that time :) I think people are asking to be killed if they don't wear the AoLS if they are lucky enough to find one early, at least till things like stone blocks, pit vipers, vorticies, invisible stalkers etc are not insta kills. IMHO of course. |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5832 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
I never wear an AoLS if I only have one (Rarely even if I have 2). The reason? AoLS is more worth than a promising character.... let's see: AoLS = 6 SoCR. Wear that AoLS and waste it in a YASD and you'll never recover from it... |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7138 days, 14 hours, 10 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Ferret, I *always* choose Preserver over an AoLS. Damn, it's so very good, to the point of being one of the best artifacts out there. I just can't resist the urge to see my character so much more powerful :-) Btw, surges of power, crownings and robbed shops are out there even at lvl 5, but, more importantly, Maastonakki made a very good point. Losing an AoLS to YASD is - to my taste - even more frustating that losing a promising character. Promising characters, after all, are far more common :-) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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Ferret Registered user Master Mindcrafter Last page view: 5877 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
I can see peoples point about not wanting to risk it, and i've never actually been "killed" while wearing an amulet so i guess i can't imagine how frustrating it could be. Probably cos i'm soooo much more careful after finding a key item. When i say i often choose an AoLS over preserver, thinking about it, its not very often. Basically when: a) Fighting EM b) Fighting Andy c) Doppleganger kings I think thats pretty much it. Edit: Oh yeah, Cat lord aswell, i try and kill as many cats as possible, i can't be bothered with the ring, and the more you kill, the more exp you get. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/6/2004 at 14:23 (GMT -5) by Ferret] |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7138 days, 14 hours, 10 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Ugh, Andy, yes, I can see the point. But EM and doppelgangers are only dangerous to pure fighters it seems to me. I've seen numerous stories of "that DK mimicking me in Coward and tearing me to shreds!!!" but, you know, spellcasters really don't have that problem :-) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5673 days, 2 hours, 13 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Preserver is the best, right after bracers of war of course. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Druidus Unregistered user |
I had a cursed amulet of order (Damn you Tyat Pare, Damn you!). If you have an amulet of order and you do chaotic things (like attacking beggers to become neutral) does the amulet become cursed? |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5832 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Ayla's holy scarf... Preserver... Ayla's holy scarf... Preserver... a hard choise... I would say the scarf is better, just because I am the extremely irritating opposition party amongst the adomists. (atleast I think myself as one..) But nah, Scarf's +10 +10 is really nice... but then again, preserver's resistances.. not to mention the regeneration... Damn. Okay: I'd take preserver if I didn't have any bracers of war in my backpack, but if I did, I'd go for the scarf... ahh.. forgive meh, I'm still a bit pissed since adom crashed today when I was playing an orcish priest at Plvl 12, having the emerald dagger and well on it's way to second postcrowning... And, I'm drunk. Damn.. in the middle of the week. Now I'm definite of my "finnishity." Edit: Clevel.. foolish meh [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/6/2004 at 17:49 (GMT -5) by Maastonakki] |
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*Majin* Unregistered user |
My level 40ish char (human assassin) was wearing Preserver with 2 AoLS in his backpac, he opened a certain tension room and found it full of about 25 great red wyrms. with about 20 of them constantly keeping me confused and the others pounding the crap out of me i couldn't even equip the Aols... |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5832 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
that's just... tough luck, I aint gonna chew bullshit about zapping a wand of monster detection, because no-one does that.. (atleast I don't)... but anyways, tough luck.. dood.. I'm drunk. had do mention that. cock. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3764 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
No; the amulet of order doesn't change status if you commit chaotic acts. A cursed one will just pull you towards Law more slowly than those of other status. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7138 days, 14 hours, 10 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
No, Preserver is way above bracers ;-) That {Wi +7} reeeeally rocks. Let's see: herb-scummed Wi of 30 plus Sword of Nonnak plus Orb of Water gives a mere Wi of 45. But with Preserver Wi skyrockets way above that 48 figure :-) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5774 days, 12 hours, 54 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
I have never worn Khelavaster's AoLS since the day my Trollish Healer had to go down and explain to him that it had been ripped apart by an exploding door. If I find another after that, then yeah, I might wear it, but I'd be more likely to wear Preserver or even an amulet of free action if I didn't have the intrinsic. (I don't find AoLS often enough to be sure what I'd do.) It's also worth noting that they don't protect you from old age or turning into a chaos being. |
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 6858 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Bah my lvl 6 drakish beastfighter just got cold, shock, petrification and death ray resistance + able to get hawkslayer in a pool. Just to go to next lvl to find a vault with baby red dragons that blasted me to pieces before I could run away. (each breath attack took ~50 hp) |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5673 days, 2 hours, 13 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
BTW, you don't need to get that pool message, you just need to know the password to get hawkslayer(there's also that experience requirement). If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 6858 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Ouh didn't know that :p |
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I've had a couple of characters wearing an AoLS without knowing it, dying and getting resurrected. I usually quit those characters because I get so pissed off for wasting a good AoLS on something else than Khelly. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6517 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Feh, wait till you lose a near-invincible char to andor drakon all because of your STUPID STUPID DAMN MISTAKE ARGH ARGH. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5832 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
come on alex, like you said yourself: "it's still as good as a normal ending, right?" :E |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6517 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
yeah, well it still says DIED in my highscore and that pisses me off :/ What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5832 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
alex are you gonna post it to HoF anyway? (You might have already, haven't checked it yet, so this might be a useless post.. anyway) |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6517 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
yeah, when I get round to it. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Alex_ Unregistered user |
submitted. |
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DaN Registered user Cursed and Doomed Last page view: 6999 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
ooo i just read your characters HoF entry, it sounds like your they really kicked arse, such a shame too loose them. gunna try out that gremlin corridor idea ;) |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6517 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
God alive, I went a bit OTT on my story . . . it's nearly 3000 words! the character is Aspero, if anyone wants a long and boring read :) What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Dalrok Unregistered user |
Well, I doubt there's more ironical way to die than falling to a pit right after saving Khelavaster. That happened to my very promising L13 Wizard - "You fall into a pit. You die..." I couldn't believe my eyes - 100 hit points lost due to falling into a pit!!! Still, 375k points with a L13 wizard ain't bad. It was even more frustrating to encounter a game crash right after Khelly had been saved on a dwarven barbarian. Oh well. |
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