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Alucath Registered user Jäger der Leucatropen Last page view: 7246 days, 11 hours, 48 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Moin, I have a Question and hope u can help me agein ;-P If I aply smithing on an item and get the message, that even if i dispite my best efforts i cant manage to improfe it, does this mean that the item has already reached his potential maximum???? ok, after some savescumming-tests i found out, that this message dont say u cant increase the weapons any more, my eternium spear is already [+12, 2d8+10], and i know it can get at least some DV bonis [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/3/2004 at 17:03 (GMT -5) by Alucath] |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
No, it only means improving will be very unlikely. You can improve it still, but it may require several attempts. Also, at some point, the chance for improvement gets so small it's no worth trying anymore. |
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meestro_mozart Unregistered user |
also, when smithing let's say a metal cap [+1 +0]. it may come out to look like [+8 +5]. now, if you get the message about your best efforts it may mean that the game tried to put the bonus on the 8 and not the 5 so you failed it. if you try again the 5 may go up, it may not. i'd say it's 50/50 on which stat raises. this is the same with SoP/D and SoIMA/D. you'll have to learn how far different equip pieces can go before you nkow if it's maxed or not. |
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NMBLNG Unregistered user |
Which makes Weaponsmiths potentialy the most powerful tank-warriors in the game. All they need is eternium armor and the ignots and ore to beef it up.
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wakka* Unregistered user |
A killer/greater claw/claw bug. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3606 days, 9 hours, 53 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
but a doppleganger king could still finish him off For the Horde! |
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Alucath Registered user Jäger der Leucatropen Last page view: 7246 days, 11 hours, 48 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
BTW, is it possible to increase the damage of a weapon, or can u just increase the to hit and defense marks??? |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
I dont think you can increase the damage "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/8/2004 at 07:34 (GMT -5) by Morio] |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5671 days, 2 hours, 25 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
You can increase the damage, to-hit and dv bonus of a weapon. After using some 150 ignots(the last 70 probably didn't do anything) on a short sword (+0, 1d6) I got it to (+11, 1d6+9) [+4, +0]. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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NMBLNG Registered user Wrath of the blade of paradise Last page view: 7195 days, 8 hours, 20 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
A weaponsmith almost doesn't need artifacts if he can get some ego-type large eternium hammers. And lots of eternium ignots. |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
Concidering PV, w.smith certainly does not need arifacts. |
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Some guy Unregistered user |
I beat the game with a weaponsmith, and I didn't even find it worth it to try to smith eternium really high. It's just too hard to improve, and the ore is too rare. I got an elven chain mail to [+8,+15] relatively easily, and I got an eternium plate to [+6,+17], which isn't any better, so I used the elven chain. And the rest of the smithed stuff I was wearing at the end was IRON. [+7,+7] crown of regen, and [+14,+9] gauntlets of strength (I used a heck of a lotta ingots on those gauntlets). But even though rediculous eternium is only for the patient, the smithing I did really helped my armor. So even without eternium weaponsmiths can be really good. |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
I smithed a tower eternium shield up to [+20, +7 or 8]. I wished for tower eternium shields, got four and melted down three to ingots, yes that may have been a bit stupid "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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satyricon Unregistered user |
it took me about 14000 blessed eternium ignots( out of moloch armors ) to make a [+41,+39] eternium armor |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
Cheating?? "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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satyricon Unregistered user |
Cheating :) no just made a few savescumming-tests a how do a do the 14000 ignots?? scrpit paste to dos widnow :) you need to get 14000 ignots ( moloch armors) ~100 ignots for one I dont remember exacly, bless the armors first so you get only blessed ignots) and then use notpad to make script by typing the thing you do a+saaa choose skill menu, select smiting, select what to work on and ignot :) Copy it 1000 times and PASTE !!! ;) (CRASHES occur rareli) some char loses are common dont forget to eat somthing in the mean time;) Its a very fast way to teleport-move through CoC aa forgot yeahh a did more scumming:( to get the moloch armors, you need to wish for molochs [Edited 3 times, last edit on 6/29/2004 at 11:30 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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satyricon Unregistered user |
and about weapons i didnt go as far sa +14 XdY +14 [+4,0] [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/29/2004 at 11:30 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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NMBLNG Registered user Wrath of the blade of paradise Last page view: 7195 days, 8 hours, 20 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
Still, that's pretty impresive. If you were to get hold of any weapon of devastation..... |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3124 days, 3 hours and 31 seconds ago. |
...you wouldn't be able to smith it :P IIRC items with prefixes and suffixes cannot be smithed. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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satyricon. Unregistered user |
you cannot smith past +13 XdY +13 [+4,0] thats the MAX of my Smithers POWERS :) Dwarf WeaponSmith 50lvl and a molochArmor gives 135 ignots you can smith some real good stuff without scumming/Cheating 15 moloch armors/2~4wishes = 2000 ignots = eternitum medium shield [+25,+24] is it worth it? [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/1/2004 at 03:23 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
is it possible to wish for moloch armors? "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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satyricon Registered user sir Greybald 'tama' Balorg Last page view: 5835 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
EMPEROR MOLOCH!! teleport Out and slaughter thouse bastard :) [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/1/2004 at 06:02 (GMT -5) by satyricon] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3124 days, 3 hours and 31 seconds ago. |
Morio - no, you get eterinium plate mail inststead of moloch armours. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
i thought so too "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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wakka* Unregistered user |
I think in 12 you could wish for hulking armors. I remember doing so. or then I remember wrong :) |
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satyricon Registered user sir Greybald 'tama' Balorg Last page view: 5835 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
no you cannot wish for hulking armors |
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wakka* Unregistered user |
even in the earlier versions? I think in gamma 12 one could wish for moloch armour. that was a fine version, the underwater cave+gremlins -> unlimited eq... *sigh* although I couldn't finish it because of a bug in the ice room. when I tried to throw something, the game crashed. A more sensitive person might be pissed off :D edit. Ah. found from adom.de version changes thingie: 0.9.9.13 "You no longer can wish for Moloch armor." and "No more paper items will be generated in the water dragon cave." and in -12 "Gremlins will no longer provide the layer with an unlimited supply of items while in the underwater cave." *sigh* [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/1/2004 at 09:12 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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satyricon Registered user sir Greybald 'tama' Balorg Last page view: 5835 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
you have problems with killing greater molochs? |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3606 days, 9 hours, 53 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
many people have. I know I do. For the Horde! |
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Garand Registered user Last page view: 7004 days, 4 hours, 17 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
do you think it's worth to learn Smithing through Glod? it is an useful skill, but it's extremely troublesome to actually benefit from it when you have it... |
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