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 Arancaytar Registered user Pyromancer Last page view: 578 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
Okay, I have three Sis - one blessed, two uncursed. While doing this, I didn't know which of them where which (got that by saving and quitting), so I wanted to find it out by trying to sell them. This is all happening in the Mountain Village in Leggot's shop, by the way. So I try to drop the single si first, and it would sell for about 400 coins. Figures, this one's the blessed one, I thought. Then I tried to drop the other two, but they sold for 1010 coins! A bit suspicious, I drop one of the two sis. It turns out he offers me 291 coins for this. I tried this again, and it's definitely the same heap of items I'm selling. Still 291, still 1010. Two sis sell for more than triple the price of one - what the hell? Move the cursor to the desired position and press [SPACE] when done. Impossible. Suddenly you stand elsewhere. You see an ancient altar of black obsidian. The goblin rockthrower suddenly shouts a prayer to his gods! You are consumed by a roaring column of flame! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4078 days, 19 hours, 8 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
Well, maybe the shopkeeper thought there's four of them. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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BcotN Registered user SoaD junkie Last page view: 6518 days, 9 hours, 49 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Well, maybe the shopkeeper thought there's four of them. lol. I Have absolutely No clue what is going on there. bug somewhere in the buy/sell code? You die... |
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*Chaos Muffin* Registered user Chaotic Awesome Last page view: 6134 days, 23 hours, 5 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Maybe they all connect into a million piece jigsaw puzzle set, so the more he gets the more he pays ;p *<< Words go here >>* |
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 Kirbot Registered user BattleHax0r of Devastation Last page view: 5895 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Chaos Jigsaw Puzzle! Constantly changing shape and number! Only 500 gold pieces! Yeah. I have no clue what's going on, either. Molach: "I like to have 200+ hp and over 5 good healin potions when I do [the fire] temple. AND some way of killing the Wyrm" Morio: "Some way of killing the worm is recommended, yes :D" |
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Arancaytar Registered user Pyromancer Last page view: 578 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
I did have another uncursed identified si (the two uncursed ones I was selling weren't id'd as uncursed). But this one wasn't sold when I dropped the other two. When I have more time, I'll try to do a little testing with that phenomenon, but currently I'm too stressed with time (I shouldn't really play at all... ^_^) Move the cursor to the desired position and press [SPACE] when done. Impossible. Suddenly you stand elsewhere. You see an ancient altar of black obsidian. The goblin rockthrower suddenly shouts a prayer to his gods! You are consumed by a roaring column of flame! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4078 days, 19 hours, 8 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
"I did have another uncursed identified si (the two uncursed ones I was selling weren't id'd as uncursed). But this one wasn't sold when I dropped the other two." Wait, the uncursed ones you tried to sell weren't identified? That explains a lot. The game adds a uncertainty factor when defining prices for unidentified items. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Arancaytar Registered user Pyromancer Last page view: 578 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
They were identified as "a heap of 2 sis", but their uncursed status wasn't displayed. Move the cursor to the desired position and press [SPACE] when done. Impossible. Suddenly you stand elsewhere. You see an ancient altar of black obsidian. The goblin rockthrower suddenly shouts a prayer to his gods! You are consumed by a roaring column of flame! |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5016 days, 1 hour, 2 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
I made a little research on this. Sis status: Cursed Amount of sis dropped Amount of gold pieces offered: 1 126 2 344 Sis status: uncursed Amount |Amount of gold pieces offered:| Should cost: 1 318 318 2 866 636 3 1299 954 4 1732 1272 5 2165 1590 Upon further calculation, I found that you get 115 gold pieces more each time you add one sis to the amount of sis you sell. This needs further research, I can't do it now, because I am in school. I will try to continue when I get to home. And btw, I made the calculation only with uncursed sis, I will test more with cursed and blessed sis later on. And one more thing, I tested this on Waldenbrook's shop on Dwarftown. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/15/2005 at 05:55 (GMT -5) by Blacklion] |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5624 days, 1 hour, 23 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
Maybe this strange phenomenon has something to do with the multiplying nature of Si ? Just a theory, but could it be that the more Sis the shopkeeper initially has the faster the amount grows (supposing that the shopkeeper did some si-farming). Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Arancaytar Registered user Pyromancer Last page view: 578 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
I wonder if there is a ceiling to this - it would definitely make selling Sis a very profitable business if you save them up in dozens or hundreds at a time. Of course, by the time you have hundreds of sis to sell, you have probably reached the Casino, making most other ways of gaining income obsolete. By the way, the "115" value appears to vary. For me, 2 uncursed sis brought 428 coins more than they should - even though the price offered for a single one was actually less than the tested one (291 instead of 318). Not dependent on race/charisma then? Has anyone else discovered this phenomenon before? It's probably a bit spoily... We finally know a bit more about these strange si things! :D Move the cursor to the desired position and press [SPACE] when done. Impossible. Suddenly you stand elsewhere. You see an ancient altar of black obsidian. The goblin rockthrower suddenly shouts a prayer to his gods! You are consumed by a roaring column of flame! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/15/2005 at 10:06 (GMT -5) by Arancaytar] |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5016 days, 1 hour, 2 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
It obviously is dependant of race of the character and the shopkeeper, as usually when selling or buying anything, I guess. I have no idea about the charisma though. I'll this with multiple characters tonight and note the races and so on... |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4078 days, 19 hours, 8 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
And don't forget that the sis weren't identified. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Z Unregistered user |
I tried selling sis at Waldenbrook's shop, and did not notice anything strange. N blessed sis sell at N*332 and N uncursed sis sell at N*237 (independent of whether status were known). |
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Arancaytar Registered user Pyromancer Last page view: 578 days, 21 hours, 52 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
This happened to me in Leggot's shop. It should probably be tested with all three type-free shops in the game - Leggot's in the HMV, Waldenbrook's in Dwarftown and Barnabas' in Lawenilothehl. I forgot whether you can sell things in the Gift shop. Move the cursor to the desired position and press [SPACE] when done. Impossible. Suddenly you stand elsewhere. You see an ancient altar of black obsidian. The goblin rockthrower suddenly shouts a prayer to his gods! You are consumed by a roaring column of flame! |
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*Chaos Muffin* Registered user Chaotic Awesome Last page view: 6134 days, 23 hours, 5 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
No selling in the casino *<< Words go here >>* |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3609 days, 20 hours, 49 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
Would sis give more piety if one would sacrifice 100 sis at once than 100 one at a time? For the Horde! |
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Echo Registered user Last page view: 3587 days, 18 hours, 25 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Nah, you get exact same amount. And rather than sacrificing the sis, sell them and sacrifice the money instead. More piety. |