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Setzer
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Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 at 14:36 (GMT -5)

Is there any real advantage to playing the fighter class? It seems that some other melee class is better than them in every category:

-Barbarians beat them in brute strength (plus they start with herbalism!)

-Assassins easily surpass them in skills

-Paladins seem to balance strength and skill fairly well (start with healing), and they get spells

What do fighters have? They start with better equipment, but that is outclassed very early. Their class skills are mostly useless (7% increase in PV?), and they lack both healing, herbalism, and spellcasting. Do they have any real advantages at all?
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Maelstrom
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Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 at 15:37 (GMT -5)

Assassins aren't a fighting class.
Fighters have good skills (don't compare them to assassins), unlike barbarians they can learn spells (try to learn anything more advanced then light/darkness with a barbarian. Good luck), they aren't illitarate.

But yeah, they pretty much suck. I've had gotten further with farmers...

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Silfir
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 07:08 (GMT -5)

They cast spells at least better than barbarians, they have far more HP than assassins (assassins suck as fighters), they possess pretty much all of the important fighting skills, including Archery and Find Weakness (barbarians don't get those).

In short, their advantage is that they are more versatile than barbarians. Still, the fact that they only get minor PV/DV boni instead of extra-powerful special attacks (They have to wait till level 40 for that) makes the game somewhat hard for them.

They suck on an attribute level, though. Their attribute modifications sum up to +0, compared to the barbarian's +4, or a paladin's +11.

I've won with a high elven fighter once, though. They're not all that bad. The beginning is quite easy thanks to the starting equipment (my favorite piece of armor, the beloved elven chain mail), Healing is easily obtained, the only really important herb for fighters (morgia) doesn't require uncursing, curaria mancox and alraunia antidote neither, and I don't use herbs that much anyway. (I've gone through the labor of precrowning only once in my ADOM career, and it hardly paid off.)
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 18:18 (GMT -5)

I did a thread about this once, and agree> i dont like fighters, but play them sometimes to have just a whach attack fighter>
Maelstrom, how are assassins not fighter type? they kick ass over fighters?
Also monks i put over fighters as well, not wearing armour hardly affects them because they get awesome bonuses to dv naturally, and there unarmed damage is freaking awesome. (also monks get an all-around circle attack at level 6, fighters get it at level 50- psssssh)

so yeah, fighters are poo compared to barbs, assys, monks and pals.
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Maelstrom
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 19:27 (GMT -5)

They're not a fighting class, they're in the same class with healers and mindcrafters IMHO ;) The not-really-fighters-and-not-spellcasters-either class :D


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Silfir
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 21:15 (GMT -5)

Fighters are awesome. I say so because someone has to.

And assassins really are worse fighters than fighters. They get only half HP. (Okay, I'm just mad at those stupid assassins because they always, always die on me. My fighter even won. There.)
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Naiyor
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 23:51 (GMT -5)

I have always done pretty well with fighters...some of my best were dwarven fighters

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