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 Kirbot Registered user BattleHax0r of Devastation Last page view: 5885 days, 11 hours, 25 minutes and 33 seconds ago. |
So, are we going to do a competition/challenge for it? I haven't seen anybody saying anything about it very recently, although there is a week yet to go before Friday the 13th. Just thought I'd mention it. Molach: "I like to have 200+ hp and over 5 good healin potions when I do [the fire] temple. AND some way of killing the Wyrm" Morio: "Some way of killing the worm is recommended, yes :D" |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5764 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
I hosted last challenge, someone else can this time... "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
I'll do it if Soira doesn't want to. And also I can put some PR on the rec.ADOM.group-thing. Let this be the pre-game discussion thread, and then a new thread will be opened on Friday the 13th, where we add and edit our characters as they progress. Are the following settings what we agreed on: * Start game on Friday the 13th of april. * Start a random character * Standard Challenge(tm) rules apply: You take the first starsign you get, you take the first random character you get, you let stats be determined randomly. Play version 1.1.1. * Special rules for this challenge: Your character will start out cursed, and shall never remove this intrinsic. Also, the character shall not gain either lucky or fate smiles intrinsic, nor wear items which grant these abilities. ? Question - Considerations: You can never sac at an altar to receive higher piety the "very pleased" You may never eat karmic beings. You can never drink from pools. Corollary: No crowning, precrownings. If you become doomed, you are ...doomed for the rest of the game. Following artifacts are no-no: Bracers of war platinum girdle "True Strength" rune-covered heavy mace "Purifier" ankh sapphire amulet "Preserver" ring of the master cat Items which cannot be worn:(obviously): amulet of luck, ring of luck Items which cannot be used: Scroll of luck Two questions I have: ? Should we avoid accidental usage of these items? Meaning we cannot wear unIDed amulets, rings, nor read unIDed scrolls (unless we are 99,7% sure it is indeed an ID scroll) ? Will getting high piety by other means than altars remove curse/dooming or add luck/fate? I'm thinking about negative piety bug. This would give a way to get crowned, even, and thus being able to do a special ending. What do you guys think, BAN it from this game, or allow (provided it does not mess with our cursed status) EDIT: Just realized you cannot get crowned while cursed (though it was just doomed). So you could get high piety with this method, but never any kind of crowning. There was some talk about adding more challenge to this, but I'd say we got enough on our hands now... [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/8/2007 at 08:14 (GMT -5) by Molach] |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
sounds good. "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5764 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
I think that the Platinum Girdle should be allowed. Kudos to anyone who can manage that, let alone get it while cursed the whole game. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
I put it there for completeness' sake. Since it is only gotten on D:50 anyway, it won't matter much. If anyone are masochistic to go after it, they will surely be forgiven. |
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gravel Registered user if i'm not ADOMing i'm working Last page view: 5869 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
sounds good, i'm in. i usually die quickly so this will be interesting, i'll prob get ambushed on the way to town by a balor lol The stone giant runs away in fear. Who ever heard of a stone being scared of gravel? |
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Tianjin Registered user for monsters - Death incarnate Last page view: 5600 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
I shall set aside my thief and join you in this poor cursed quest - though not drinking from pools is an onerous burden to me, I shall abide by the rules. I will die like a man - and quickly, I suspect. Try the TiLiCat! It's experience! Tiger, stuffed with deboned Lion, stuffed with deboned Wildcat, and slow roasted with a mix of herbs. (served raw for Trolls) |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
Rules were discussed and agreed upon in this thread called "Any challenges coming up" Now, last time I (belatedly) gave out some AWARDS(tm). We'll need some this time too. Ranking will be by game score, but in addition AWARDS can be fun. Some I've thought up so far: Highest score - AWARD Lowest score - AWARD Best writeup - AWARD (funny, descriptive, good language, in-character, whatever. Determine either by voting or dictatorial mandate (ME)) Most Masochistic game - AWARD (the one who made life the most difficult for him/herself. Becoming doomed voluntarily certainly qualifies) Most Evil player - AWARD (Getting to and staying at C-, killing innocents, that sort of thing) Most spectacular death - AWARD Best Leading Actor - AWARD (Most lucky R/C combo for this challenge - vote for this?) Worst Leading Actor - AWARD (Most hopeless R/C combo for this challenge. Should be easy to determine) Best played game - Set apart by highest score, this reflects quick thinking, smart moves that saves the character out of a certain dangerous situation. To qualify, you would need a specific entry in your writeup about the hopeless position and how your ingenuity saved your bacon. Fastest game - the first game submitted in the "results" thread. Usually a very short, nasty game... Any more ideas? [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/10/2007 at 06:18 (GMT -5) by Molach] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
Worst Luck Ever AWARD. Being trapped by uber-powerful monsters in a usually peaceful place. Getting smashed by stone block traps while you're just recovering from a major fight. Being teleported into the middle of an acid vortex tension room. Simply put, the unluckiest death that is died. Stupidness does not count - you have to be f***ed by the RNG so badly that no one could have possibly fared better than you. Note that someone who does get into one of the above situations and escapes with his life is not worthy of this award - simply because it would take far too much luck to do this, which wouldn't make you eligible for winning the Worst Luck Ever AWARD. If you survive through sheer l33t sk1llz, there's already the award Molach mentioned. EDIT: Item destruction MINI-AWARD Keep score of the items that were destroyed by item destruction traps during the game. The one with the most valuable items destroyed wins. Valid points are gained by: - All traps - Fighting eyes of destruction and annihilators They are not gained by: - Falling down the rift - Fighting blue dragons in the BDC - Entering the Air Temple Since these are not bad luck, but to be expected if you ever venture to these places. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/10/2007 at 08:33 (GMT -5) by Silfir] |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
I'm in. Other award ideas: most places visited AWARD earliest dooming AWARD. most doomed AWARD (collecting and wearing the most domming/cursing equipment) Enemy of the Cat Lord AWARD (most cats killed) "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 8 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
cool down. i have rules almost done and post them tomorrow morning as i found there i put them on my pc... It was very nasty Easter hollidays. (i'm still in very desperate mood) frankly i disagree on certain things: version 1.1.1 i know some guys using exceptionally Adom 1.0.0. Why shouldn't they? and if someone uses old easy gamma it is up to him. equipping lucky items will be allowded. Or should i lose the game for getting human brabarian who starts with luck amulet (iirc, of course)? doomed removal restriction - thanks a lot no. if you can remove doom without removing curse you are wellcome. iirc, loop might remove curse/doom but it dependable on ADom version. my version of rules is coming soon. if they don't fit your needs... they will be changed. p.s. you can call me softcore but i'm not restricting lucky intrinsinc. p.p.s. for ones saying stuff can negate curse effect i'd recomend to remember black post about luck stacking. having Mana at 99 burry's curse without leftover. should we forbid +mana items? training mana? even for elven wizards? A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
Your rules will of course be even better. My list was just compilation of the discussion thread "just in case". And this is just a discussing thread too, cause the real thread is not opened. So no prob, you do it. Dooming removal restriction was just a friendly reminder not to get doomed, because it will be hard to get away. But now I see a way to get rid of it now, and not lose cursed status. So no worry. Hah, Human barbs actually DO start with amulet of luck. Never knew, never played one. And any hurthling could start with a cursed ring of luck. Nothing softcore about playing perma-cursed character with no hope of crowning. Edit: Scoring. Game score is mostly for fun, the number somewhat reflects how far one makes it in the game. But dying to a VD:1 corruption-trap-generated whimpering mass of Primal Chaos will usually give scores high in the negative(due to corruption). And after winning, everyone can "milk" the score by dragging the game on and on. Not much point in that. Bad luck is not visible in the score, nor is tough r/c combos. So Score is mostly a way to order the entries as they come in. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/10/2007 at 18:03 (GMT -5) by Molach] |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 8 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
so rules are up. any ideas on their improvement are wellcome. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
About the rule that you have to get suicidal in case you become uncursed by accident: I'd suggest that if you do become cursed, you have to try and become cursed again ASAP, through pissing off your deity or with a scroll of ill fate perhaps. If you have a cursing item, wear it until you get your curse back. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
Nah, if you curse is removed you should be disqualified/dead. What is the message for using an (un)identified scroll of luck? "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 8 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
iirc, message depends on what scroll does. in our case it would be "you feel less unlucky". silfir: can you give me a case of accidental uncursing? besides i made warnings on most possible cases -- unID scroll of luck and high piety. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
This is slightly code-diving-spoily...so posting in tags. Spoiler scrolls of luck have the rather high danger level requirement of 12. You are not going to find one in the early game. First chance would be pyramid or ToHK or DH or DF or DG or WD lair or BIT or OC. Anyway it is very easy to find out which scroll is ID, and after I read one ID scroll (or do dwarf quest #1) I would never ever read an unidentified scroll. So it should not be possible to have that accident. If you do, die with honor. It is after all Friday the 13th [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/12/2007 at 07:10 (GMT -5) by Molach] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
Okay, accepted. It just is that wicked a curse that if you ever lose it, it makes you kill yourself ;) You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
strange that if you *lose* the curse then the said *lost* curse kills you. I think its a secondary curse that makes the in-game cursing necessary for sanity (and thus life). :P "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
"It's a blessing... and a curse"? You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
Silfer wrote: "What really sucks is that I will get in trouble with piety. Since I mustn't lose the curse, I can't heavily invest in piety, and if I forget to sacrifice stuff over a long time, I risk losing my special abilities. Of course, I've hardly played paladins, so I don't know if this is all that bad." As I understand it only the ones you have to invoke will be lost. This means you lose: Cure sickness Heal (at a late level) There might be something in between that I've never used. I won with a Dwarvish Paladin recently but always had good piety. (and I'm hoping (in vain probably) that I will get that R/C combo) Actually anything Dwarvish or an Elvish fighter or paladin like you got. In other words PV > 5. Preferably > 10 (but like thats ever going to happen). Not the 13th here yet... "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5604 days, 1 hour, 45 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
"Item destruction MINI-AWARD Keep score of the items that were destroyed by item destruction traps during the game. The one with the most valuable items destroyed wins." Ha, that could have been included in the challenge. My character would be a contender for it. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 8 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
mini awards are not listed in challenge. you still can claim this one. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
I shall compete for this as well. Blessed seven league boots and two scrolls of chaos resistance. Along with countless other scrolls, potions and spellbooks..:) |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4240 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
How far in are you, Molach? Done the tower yet? I must say, Some Guy's achievements have been pretty amazing so far, and I'll be very impressed if you manage to beat him. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5604 days, 1 hour, 45 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
Maybe I can't win this item destruction award afterall. My suit of armour has held together lately, which is really a shame, lol. My biggest item destruction moment was when an explosion-trapped door destroyed my best bow of hunting, a spare pair of SLB's, gauntlets of strength +6 (which I had just bought from the casino) and my smithed bracers of resistance (which I never found another pair of) - yet nothing else was damaged. I think the door knew exactly what it was aiming for. My next weirdest item destruction moments were the air temple and falling down the rift - both of which destroyed my fireproof blankets. But, those locations don't count for this, according to original mini-award rules. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |