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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 6 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds ago. |
So I have a Gnomish Elementalist (taking a break from High Elven Barbarains after the latest YASD). He starts N= but I got him to L via amulet of order. So I sac 4000gp on an altar. *WELCOME BELIEVER* The ground starts to rumble. The altar is still N and I am now NL. What gives? EDIT: lol that's 4000gp not 400. big difference. The altar was neutral initially "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/8/2007 at 17:33 (GMT -5) by F50] |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3898 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
you didn't sac enough. The amount depends on how much your god likes you "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 6 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds ago. |
so 3000+ is only for converting altars to gods who like you? Can anyone quantify the amount needed for a deity that the PC doesn't know at all before saccing? "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/7/2007 at 15:41 (GMT -5) by F50] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4239 days, 14 hours, 36 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Conversion costs 3000+, so if you want to turn a grey altar white you'll need to sac at least that much. At early levels most monsters will do for the conversion price. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5141 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
Also, you can take align hits. If you are L, and attempt to convert a C altar you will take a align hit when you first turn it C->N. So if you are borderline L then it might tip you below to N. At least I remember that my law skill told me I was transgressing the law when I did the above. Guidebook is somewhat mystical about required amount, I've never had any problems with saccing 3000. But I often do 4-5000 if I can spare the gold, and I usually can. |
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Tianjin Registered user for monsters - Death incarnate Last page view: 5599 days, 23 hours, 37 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
I'm quite sure (but not 100%) that the amount of gold required is also affected by your Cursed/uncursed/Blessed status, or it may be the Doomed state. I've been Cursed & Doomed, and it took more gold than otherwise. Try the TiLiCat! It's experience! Tiger, stuffed with deboned Lion, stuffed with deboned Wildcat, and slow roasted with a mix of herbs. (served raw for Trolls) |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 6 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds ago. |
Molach possibly got it right in saying "if you are borderline L..." But just how L do I need to be? I think that may warrant my getting WADOMF... "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5603 days, 13 hours, 7 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
Also, you need more gold to convert altars at higher levels. I once attepted to convert an altar with 20,000 coins when I was around level 30 or 35, and my equipment got destroyed instead. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 15 hours, 18 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
My equipment has gotten destroyed so often with converting altars that I don't even bother anymore... I try to make Dwarftown a lawful alter so I can become a lawful champion. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Frim Registered user playing since gamma 12 Last page view: 6169 days, 23 hours, 31 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
That's why it's common rule to have nothing but artifacts in your inventory and equipment while trying to convert altars... |
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Silfir Unregistered user |
Hey, that's not a rule. You're just stupid if you don't do it, that's all ;) |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5476 days, 6 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds ago. |
The only time I've had trouble with 4000gp with initially lawful characters is when I got a relationship (bad) with the neutral god who then cursed my equipment every time I converted one of his altars. "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3599 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
The only way I convert altars is by sacrificing a monster. Haven't gotten my equipment destroyed by this method yet. For the Horde! |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5764 days, 4 hours, 31 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
Lucky you.... "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3599 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
It probably depends on my level, though, I've only attempted this with chars below level 12. For the Horde! |