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J.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 14:59 (GMT -5)

Okay, here's the deal. I've got a promising drakeling barbarian, lvl 16, crowned with vanquisher, still haven't killed any cats. I've found plenty of forges and altars and shops, but not one level with herbs besides the big room. When I got to the big room for the first time and looked all over, I found one square of herbs, all else was either empty or single squares which died off. Now, what's the best way to get this square expanding?
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So, it's kinda in the top left corner. I've got 28 holy water, so I can grow I'll guess I can grow at least five squares pretty reliably and still have a couple of them left.

The herbs it has are moss and spenseweed. That's pretty much all I need, but still, I'd like to raise my Wi and some curaria mancox so I can eat kobold shamans and not wait 500 turns for sickness to wear off.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 15:58 (GMT -5)

First you get a 3x2 row, by adding 1 bush (A)like this:
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Giving:
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Harvest(H):
H"H
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Let grow once:
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Harvest:
"HH
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 15:58 (GMT -5)

Taken exactly from the guidebook:

It is sometimes possible to move herb bushes to the lines you want in order to get a particularly desirable herb. You need four herb bushes in a "T" shape, like this (again, view it in a monospaced font):

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When it's time for new bushes to grow, you'll get this pattern. . .

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"""

. . .pick the bottom row clean. . .

.".
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...

. . . and wait for another generation to pass. . .

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Then harvest the bottom bush of each column to oblivion.

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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 17:17 (GMT -5)

Thought y'all would appreciate a link to my favorite herb site. Just follow the link then click "play life"
http://www.math.com/students/wonders/life/life.html
You can use it to determine what any pattern you come accross will grow into and how to most effectively create a garden out of it.

Here's a shot of the garden i made using 0 waters or seeds, having a huge garden totally negates the need for herbalism (Archer), they grow faster than i can harvest and i got a uncursing scroll (only ones i need blessed are spense and i got enough water for that). The three traps shown are tele traps, created the outer two so i could harvest faster (tele control).
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[Edited 1 time, last edit on 9/26/2007 at 17:22 (GMT -5) by Narcolepcy]
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 23:35 (GMT -5)

normally i'd go for

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it IS explosive. it remains expanded for couple turns. and if worst comes worst it self stabilizes.

upper wall will be hindering your case. i suggest diging it for extra row, but even than it's lifespan will be shorter and it will tend to vanish at some point.

best herb simulator for me.

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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 02:43 (GMT -5)

Neato, now i wont have to manually remove herbs that would have hit a wall.
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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 07:53 (GMT -5)

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried something, and got some neat squares of different things, then tried to pacify the room, during which something had happened and the herb situation got kinda screwed up, then tried some tricks again and now I've got at least one square of everything, which is more than enough, I only really need spenseweed.
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 at 18:55 (GMT -5)

Just found a new kickass pattern, try this in the exact middle of the big room
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It stabilizes into an oscilating 13x13 pattern that would enable you to get mutiple 4x4 for every herb, and it has multiple stages at which you can stop expansion.
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Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 at 12:12 (GMT -5)

So, I managed to get my first win :)

I was very lucky this game. AoLS dropped somewhere in the pyramid or dwarven graveyard, RoDS somewhere in CoC before casino. WoWi with four charges in the blue dragon caves, another RoDS on D:50. Wished for 7LB, GoGS, emperor moloch(hadn't invested in smithing at the time, thought I'd speed leveling up a bit), speed*3 on D:50 and concentration after buying "SoA in casino on the way out. So in the end, it was quite easy. I really like drakelings, alertness is good, I found food preservation got me tons of corpses, music helped a lot with cats.

Only downside was the speed loss on D:50. How do you guys deal with it normally? I'm guessing not every character has three wishes to spare. Potions of boost speed lasted long enough for maybe 1/8th of the fighting, and it's really corrupting there so I wouldn't like to just wait it off.


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Son           St:99  Le:48  Wi:73  Dx:65  To:79  Ch:39  Ap:27  Ma:35  Pe:46 N-
DV/PV: 63/69     H:1289(1289)  P:12(715)     Exp: 50/44375033   DrCh  Sp: 141
Blessed Bloated Berserk

Drank all boosting potions and healing potions at the end for good measure. My learning sucked all the way through, but that didn't really matter.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Inventory
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total weight: 33557 stones Carrying capacity: 60575 stones

He: uncursed Iron Crown of Havlor (-6, -6) [+12, +12] {Le+4} [65s]
Ne: blessed ankh [3s]
Bo: blessed Shirt of the Saints [+8, +4] {Le+2} [20s]
Gi: blessed girdle of giant strength [+0, +4] {St+12} [30s]
Cl: uncursed cloak of protection [+2, +3] [20s]
RH: blessed axe of the minotaur emperor (+12, 3d20+16) [-6, +4] [1200s]
-I recently found out about the top trap type -way of doing the maze. REALLY, REALLY CHEAP. But, I only lost 2 Le doing it.

LH: -
RR: blessed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd) [1s]
-Music: 100 baby

LR: blessed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
Br: blessed rustproof bracers of regeneration [+7, +4] [18s]
Ga: blessed rustproof gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [+7, +7] {St+3} [40s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+5, +3] [30s]
MW: uncursed rune-covered sling "Whirlwind" (+12, +12) [3s]
Mi: blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12] {Ma+24}
Tl: uncursed phial of Caladriel [2s]

Iron crown and Shirt were precrown gifts. The crown gave me almost half my PV at that time. I've a patched game where all artifacts can be generated as precrownings.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stuff
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total weight: 31974 stones Carrying capacity: 60575 stones

Armor ('[')
blessed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
uncursed leather apron (-1, -1) [+0, +2] [75s]
blessed leather apron (-1, -1) [+0, +2] [75s]
blessed white dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [+6, +16] [200s]
uncursed moloch armor (-8, -16) [-27, +51] {Dx-17} (-17 spd) [15000s]
uncursed fine leather armor "Nature's Companion" (+2, +0) [+2, +8] (+15 spd)
-Dragon scale mail was found in Casino and later got the DV smithed up on it. Nature's Companion was from uselessness. I thought it would've been easier to smith the moloch armor, because of it's huge dv malus, but it turned out to be quite difficult and so I didn't bother with it much.

One-handed weapons ('(')
blessed hatchet (+2, 1d6+1) [50s]
uncursed orcish spear of slaughtering (+1, 2d10+2) [75s]
-This was my early weapon

uncursed lead-filled mace "Big Punch" (+1, 8d5+3) [-6, +0] [800s]
blessed adamantium warhammer of penetration (+6, 2d3+8) [43s]
-Good to smith with :)

blessed eternium battle axe of devastation (+0, 6d6+16) [35s]
-Don't remember where this came from, saved it in case I wanted to use a shield. Didn't use a shield. Still, pretty nice :)

heap of 3 uncursed potions of cure corruption [6s]
heap of 3 blessed potions of cure corruption [6s]
heap of 3 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [6s]
-I killed the white unicorn for PoGA. 90 day limit my ass. I got lucky with the dwarven mystic, so that helped.


Twohanded weapons 15 +20 +30 +8 Grand Mastery
-DIE, GREMLINS(and everything else in the game)


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
--------------------------------------
ÆRight hand: Î+257Æ bonus to hit, Î3d20+157Æ damage
-Used Vanquisher most of the time. It did a little less damage, but still, I managed to invent a new way to fight greater molochs. I one-hit-killed them with tremendous blow :P That was the definite highlight of the game. Only managed to get balors down to critical, grr.

Concentration ............ 29 (mediocre) [+3d3]
-Well, didn't even get to train it after wishing for it. Missed the courage skill, because those damn muggers very very rarely spawn in holeinthewall, and I got bored.

Son, the drakish barbarian, saved the world with his brave efforts and
became a great ruler while saving himself 69 times.
-Nice. Now I might start trying for an ultra.

His strength score was modified by +52 during his career.
-Without scumming for giants in any way. Food pres + spitting for starvation is awesome. With 26 starting that becomes 78 +gogs+gauntlets=93.

His learning score was modified by +8 during his career.
His willpower score was modified by +10 during his career.
His dexterity score was modified by +31 during his career.
-Apish corruption + herbs helped a bit I think.

His toughness score was modified by +36 during his career.
His charisma score was modified by +6 during his career.
His appearance score was modified by +15 during his career.
His mana score was modified by +18 during his career.
His perception score was modified by +16 during his career.
He was the champion of the arena.
He was a member of the thieves guild.
He brought back joy into the life of a tiny girl.
He killed the emperor of the ancient minotaur race.
He defeated the arch enemy of a mighty karmic wyrm.
He adhered to the principles of the Cat Lord and thus rose to great fame.
He saved Khelavaster from certain death.
He left the Drakalor Chain after completing his quest and became a great
leader and famous hero.
15218 monsters perished under his attacks.
The following 31 artifacts were generated during his adventure:
the si
the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle"
the ring of the master cat
the potion of literacy
the golden gladius "Death's Sting"
the ancient claymore "Death's Blade"
the silvery two-handed sword "Vanquisher"
the Iron Crown of Havlor
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Air
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth
the lead-filled mace "Big Punch"
the rune-covered trident
the sword of Nonnak
the elemental gauntlets
the ring of the High Kings
the phial of Caladriel
the crown of science
the ancient mummy wrapping
the ankh
the Shirt of the Saints
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Mana
the black rune-covered dagger "Needle"
the black rune-covered dagger "Sting"
the rune-covered sling "Whirlwind"
the fine leather armor "Nature's Companion"
the shining long spear "Soaker"
-This one I didn't find. Probably D:50 or dragon caves.

the Trident of the Red Rooster
the weird tome
the axe of the minotaur emperor
He possessed the following intrinsics:
He was fire resistant.
He was poison resistant.
He was acid resistant.
He was lucky (enhanced through an item).
Fate smiled upon him (enhanced through items).
He was sleep resistant (gained through an item).
He was petrification resistant.
He was able to teleport.
He was able to control teleportation.
He was resistant to death rays.
He was shock resistant.
He was able to see invisible things (gained through items).
He was immune to shock attacks.
He was immune to fire attacks.
He was immune to acidic attacks.
He was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through items).
He had the following talents: Affinity with Axes, Affinity with Clubs &
Hammers, Affinity with Twohanded Weapons, Aggressive, Alert, Basher,
Careful, Defensive Fighter, Dodger, Greased Lightning, Mighty Strike, Miser,
Natural Berserker, Powerful Strike, Quick, Treasure Hunter, Very Quick.
-Funny story... Thought I'd taken strong of will for melee weapon master... Turns out, I didn't. HAH.

He had a final speed score of 141 (final base speed: 135).
He was a messiah of Issrecht.
He asked for 7 divine interventions.
He was a holy champion of Balance.

The following monsters were vanquished:

20 dark orcs
-Strength
44 fire giants
-Strength
3 fire giant kings
-Strength
8 fomorian giants
-Strength
40 frost giants
-Strength
47 frost giant berserkers
-Strength
2 frost giant jarls
-Strength. I had one vault of these.
28 greater molochs
-Only so few? Maybe I didn't kill them all.
37 hill giants
-Strength
5 hill giant chieftains
-Strength
32 stone giants
-Strength
22 stone giant lords
-Strength
30 titans
-Strength. Had a tension/threatening room of these somewhere.
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Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."
Silfir
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Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 14:42 (GMT -5)

As far as I know, fire spells help you regain your speed as a drakeling greatly.
You drop the golden ball.
You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west.
Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
Which direction? (123456789) 4
Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated.
You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd!
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Soirana
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Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 16:30 (GMT -5)

the only fire spell i know being helpful is improved fireball, cause others do not affect caster. some crystals of fire, failed alchemy might come handy too.
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Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 18:39 (GMT -5)

Get a bunch of wands of fire and zap them at 5.
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Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 01:52 (GMT -5)

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[Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/7/2007 at 08:24 (GMT -5) by Ekaterin]
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Surprise surprise, spambots. IP ban them bastards.
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