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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
I just started a game with a gnomish druid, level 2. Talked to a giant frog and it said "Kiss me and I'll become a prince!". Decided to say yes, and he turned into a prince, left me the stuff he does. Is that supposed to happen? Is the frog quest a thing you can just do like that, no pool draining required? A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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LordMcHash Registered user Last page view: 5910 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I'm going to have to call bs... unless thou hast proof! |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3600 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
Screenshot or it didn't happen ;-) Kidding, ADOM probably still has bugs like that. Was it a male char btw? For the Horde! |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4957 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
Why on earth were you talking to frogs anyway? If you go looking for bugs, thou shalt find them. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Female char ofcourse. Happened again, with another female druid in the next game. Three times at that, got the prince 2 times and a wart once. Why did I talk to frogs? Because I always talk to non-hostile monsters if I'm not busy. A way of saying "hello, thanks for not wasting my time with fighting". EDIT: screenshots were required, and sceenshot ye shall recieve. Made a fresh char, female gnomish druid, for the sake of consistance (5 talents but 8 Le). Went out to the swamp and encountered frogs. Two tries, one wart, one prince: The giant frog croaks: "Kiss me and I'll become a prince!" (more)
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Frogcheck St:12 Le: 8 Wi:12 Dx:15 To:16 Ch:11 Ap:11 Ma:21 Pe:14 N=
DV/PV: 15/3 H: 20(20) P: 25(25) Exp: 1/0 WE Sp: 100
A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/6/2008 at 07:44 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
3 frogs later, two warts, two beautiful gnomish princes: "Ye shall be rewarded for ending my torment!" (more)
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Frogcheck St:12 Le: 8 Wi:12 Dx:15 To:16 Ch: 9 Ap: 9 Ma:21 Pe:14 N=
DV/PV: 15/3 H: 14(20) P: 25(25) Exp: 1/38 WE Sp: 100
The chance for a prince seems 50% - the fith and final frog of that encounter also gave me a wart. It's also worth noting that frogs that give a wart a and grin at you go hostile if you try to talk to them again, until they just "croak in anger", refusing to speak to you. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/6/2008 at 07:50 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 27 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Apparently, every neutral frog has a chance of being the prince, meaning a Druid can complete the quest with ease... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
It seems it's not really a 'quest' and the frog princess from pools is just there to inform you that you can do it and give you a gift. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4240 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
What stuff do you get from the quest again? Could it be considered a kinda scummy way of female druids getting some cash early on from selling the items? (at the risk of losing lots of Ap of course) Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
It's junk - a diadem of beauty, an amulet of beauty, a potion of beauty, sometimes cursed, which I found out the hard way: "yeey, no wart! 'D'rink. Wait, dammit!". And some gold - about 4x normal gold drop (120-250 for that lvl 1 char in the wilderness, ~1200 for a higher level one, forgot where - either UC or the puppy cave 4-5 ) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/6/2008 at 08:48 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4240 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Well, I suppose technically you could lure a bunch of friendly frogs to a higher danger level area and get a lot of money. Not really worth the effort though... Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4957 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
Maybe it works for tamed Frogs too? |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
After testing with a grey elf - finding giant frogs in the wilderness for this in an utter waste of time and resources. Not only did I get attacked by undead quite often, but out of the 5 frogs I finally found 4 gave me a wart and the last turned into a prince and gave me a cursed potion of beauty. Yeey, for going from 20 to 15 appearance. If I wanted my stats drained, I would have gone to the black druid, thank you. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Nightmare Registered user Soul Calibur 2 Last page view: 4599 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes and 43 seconds ago. |
Does the Golden Ball do anything other than elicit the inane response "you hear the frog princess say "NOOOOO *CROAK*" or whatever it says? "As for me, I feel priveleged to be among the only species able to make scientific inquiries." -unknown "Be sure to keep your distance if you don't have resistance." -DG |
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THC842 Registered user Last page view: 4487 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
it looks like the answer is no, ive never even tried the frog quest, or for that matter try a female player |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3117 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
You should. Females > males. In most good RPG games I've played (Fallout 1 was the only one I can think of that had better goodies for males only). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 27 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Anyone who willfully plays a gray elven male deserves to be ridiculed, that's for sure. 8 Charisma versus 18 Appearance used for calculation of shop prices... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4898 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
I willfully (and exclusively) play male gray elves, when trying to beat the game in under 24000 turns. The reason is simple, I know of no other race/gender combo, that can come CLOSE to pulling it off. The fairer gender just doesn't do as well, for me at least. The top spots in the HOF have quite a number of male gray elves. If memory serves, moreso than any other race/gender combo. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/4/2008 at 09:53 (GMT -5) by gut] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 27 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
If that one strength point cuts it for you, why not? You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4898 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
I would rather have one point of strength than lower shop prices, they mean little to me, and gold isn't hard to get. In the early game, there are the criminal killing quests, they yield ~5500. For the mid game, there is the arena, and the Si. Then the casino. I was unaware that males recieved only one point of additional strength. My observations led me to believe differently. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4069 days, 3 hours, 27 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Eyes can deceive... :) That one point of strength doesn't make a difference in most cases because it is among the easiest stats to train anyway when it's under 19, and male gray elves are usually that low. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4898 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
I looked around a bit, to try to find info on the gender differences. The guidebook had little. I even did a search of the improved guidebook, which yielded nothing extra. I searched google groups and found some info that seemed a bit sketchy to me, but did indicate only a +1 strength bonus for males. Also some indication that males level faster, but I don't know how much faith to put in that research either. The ADOM manual says "(in ADOM female characters are more agile, male characters are slightly stronger)." which also indicates only a +1 strength bonus. Still, when I have tried female PC's it always seemed to me, that they were much more difficult to keep alive in the early game. Maybe the difference was just my in my imagination, but for now, males seem to work better for me. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
girls get +1dx instead. and i do not find any deifrence between genders in terms of survival. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4898 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
Perhaps I will give female PC's another try. It may have been my imagination, or just bad luck. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3756 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
If you want a really high Appearance, you can do that. But Appearance is only useful for females, and then only in shops. Die Gedanken sind Frei |