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minchazo
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 at 16:22 (GMT -5)

I've just recently learned many of the benefits from using Darkness, specifically with Vortexes (thanks, everyone!) Before this, my wounded character would run away and helplessly watch his approaching death, knowing there was no way to escape from the coming explosion (barring teleport).

So, after reading about how darkness works, my drakeling wizard (Dinah) cast it on a vortex and killed him easily. *grin* As luck would have it, the RNG threw a tension room of fire vortexes at her a little later in the COC.

Now that I know how to kill them, I decide that I'm gonna make it slow and painful for them. Frost bolt? Ice ball? Nah, it'll be over way too quickly. Dinah shoots at them with her bow instead (currently only at lvl 3-4 on bows) and intended to melee them once they get close. Vortex #1 finally gets up in her face and Dinah casts darkness, only to have #1 blow up in her face... o.O

Still alive, though she is in single digits, Dinah wonders what went wrong? Did she really cast darkness? Was she wearing an amulet of light? Nope, everything around her is dark, the only thing she can see is that open door in front of her that the vortex was standing on...

Does darkness not work on door squares? Or is there some other reason that the vortex blew up that I'm not considering?
Silfir
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 at 17:55 (GMT -5)

I hate to say this, but you were asking for it. :)

Other than that, yeah, door squares tend to behave strangely.
You drop the golden ball.
You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west.
Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
Which direction? (123456789) 4
Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated.
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Darren Grey
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 at 18:23 (GMT -5)

Door squares behave oddly even after the door is knocked down. It's usually best to equip yourself with resistance anyway in case something goes wrong. As a wizard it's much safer to use invisibility and bolt spells (not ball spells) - I only use darkness with melee characters who need it.
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Doalag
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 at 21:50 (GMT -5)

What I hate with pets used with another class than bard or farmer is that in dark a char can hit pets and make them wild.

If the Vortex is close I won't bet on invisibility. I recently got stuff destroyed by an acid vortex despite I was invisible. Well ok I could have use some teleport to avoid it but believed in invisibility... and my luck! :-D I know it's better to never believe in your luck!
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4897 days, 13 hours, 36 minutes and 4 seconds ago.
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 at 23:16 (GMT -5)

You can't missile or melee attack while invisible,
it gives away your possition. Bolt spell, acid
spit, and wands work though.

About door squares, if you stand in a door square,
with the vortex in the dark, it can't explode. If
the vortex is in the door, and you are in the
dark it can... or was it the other way around. I
never can remember : ) Seriously, if you are on
the door square, your ok.

A funny thing about the door squares, they don't
go dark at all. You can see your PC clearly, but
if you try to read something, you get the 'no
read in the dark' message. Secret passage doors
are different I think. If you cast darkness, then
discover the passageway (how?!), then the square
is not dark. However, you can cast darkness again,
and it will go nicely dark then.
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Subconscious
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 03:29 (GMT -5)

Invisibility works with missile attacks. I always use it at rehetep's to kill the jackaldaemons first and then Rehetep from afar. Helps if theres some bad enemies generated on third pyramid level.
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Doalag
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 18:17 (GMT -5)

I didn't attack, I was only invisible walking when the vortex go near and explodes. Not like in the dark.
Silfir
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4068 days, 12 hours, 1 minute and 18 seconds ago.
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 06:41 (GMT -5)

Invisibility doesn't work with missile attacks in my experience. The opponents you hit with missiles start moving towards you, and if you didn't kill them with the missiles, they would be able to hit you.

Invisibility never works against enemies you have engaged at any point in the game, even if you missed. Spells seem to be the exception.
You drop the golden ball.
You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west.
Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
Which direction? (123456789) 4
Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated.
You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd!

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/26/2008 at 06:42 (GMT -5) by Silfir]
SirMason
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4745 days, 6 hours, 50 minutes and 36 seconds ago.
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 08:44 (GMT -5)

So let me get this straight. If I'm standing in a doorway and cast darkness on a vortex, the vortex will explode without damaging my PC or equipment? Do I have to kick the door down first?
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vogonpoet
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 09:12 (GMT -5)

No dude, thats bent.

If a vortex explodes, it will damage your PC and equipment, if they dont have the right resistance.

In the dark, vortices never explode.

Doorways are buggy for darkness. Monsters standing in a door which should be dark are not standing in the dark.

If you are being chased by a vortex, make sure you are not next to doorway before casting your darkness.

Err, right?
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4897 days, 13 hours, 36 minutes and 4 seconds ago.
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 16:58 (GMT -5)

HA! Now I'm confused! : D
I'm just joking, vogonpoet is correct.

If a vortex is capable of panic, they might be
able to explode in the dark, but I don't think
they are able to panic.

I have made a demo of an exp. level 1 trollish
wizard, using darkness to kill Barnabus. You can
see from that, which squares to be avoided. It's
link is on an older thread here.

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The Real J.
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5613 days, 18 hours, 15 minutes and 44 seconds ago.
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 at 03:15 (GMT -5)

Hmmm... Has anyone ever witnessed a vortex self-berferking ? Probably not as they apparently have no other means of attack but exploding. Though it would be kinda funny to see vortex deciding to fight to the death in blind rage, exploding on itself and gaining experience...

OT: how about corrupting monsters ? ISTR reading somewhere that corrupting hits actually heal corrupting monsters. So would a corruptor, for instance, self-berferking actually keep healing itself ? Some other monsters might also make a funny effect if they decided to self-berferk: all kinds of eyes, doppelgangers, jellies...
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