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geg_Ma3gau Registered user fighter 5 monk 6 rogue 29 Last page view: 4479 days, 3 hours, 45 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
Hi all! im a newbie and im interesten in how one would start a game with a smith. choose dwarf? any advice on early strategy with him? i want to descend through the unremarkable dungeon early, after i ve acquired healing skill in VD |
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anon Unregistered user |
Dwarf is not the best combo for a smith imo. They just don't add much. Gnome might be the best choice. Gemology is very useful for a weaponsmith. Trolls are good as well. They also start with gemology and their regen helps compensate for lack of Healing skill. Drakelings are Hurthlings are both solid. They both add food preservation(awesome). Drakelings also add Alertness(awesome) and Hurthlings add Archery & Cooking as well as 4 levels in Thrown Rocks(very powerful during the early game), which are all useful. |
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 Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4940 days, 20 hours, 34 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
And orcs add mining - never forget that weaponsmiths do NOT have it! Plus the ever-powerful Find Weakness. Basically, every race can benefit a smith except a dwarf. :) Since you are a newbie, I'd recommend Orcs, or if you want to be a good guy in the VD, Drakelings (since their acid spit is just so unbalanced). 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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geg_Ma3gau Registered user fighter 5 monk 6 rogue 29 Last page view: 4479 days, 3 hours, 45 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
Thanks for the advice! I really appreciate the idea of a gnomish weaponsmith. Mining will grant lots of gems for saccing and other purposes. By the way, guys, is it really possible to complete the game without save scumming? Cant play without saves still. |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4940 days, 20 hours, 34 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Yes. Seemed impossible to me first too, but I eventually did it. Since this isn't the spoilers forum, I'll just say that a reasonably carefully played gnomish wizard is really easy for that purpose. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4251 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Maul, weaponsmiths have find weakness already :) Orcs are still a decent race for them though... Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4940 days, 20 hours, 34 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Hmm, then orcs probably aren't all that useful for weaponsmiths compared to dwarves. Still tough anyway. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/7/2009 at 09:09 (GMT -5) by Maul] |
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anon Unregistered user |
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Orcs and Trolls all have Mining. I'm not sure how critical mining is, though. Worth mentioning is that Candle starsign completely blows everything else away for classes that start without healing and without herbalism. Candle is even more important for smiths, because it enables you to dive the UD for forges straightaway. An early game forge allows you to melt down your extra iron equipment and smith up your kit and weapon a bit. |
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Caladriel Registered user ReGiStErEd UsEr Last page view: 4709 days, 14 hours, 30 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
FYI, I am pretty sure that starting skills "stack" to the extent that if your class and race both have a skill, you will start out more proficient than it would be otherwise. This can help early in the game. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4080 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
High elf. I'm serious. Check out the skillset you end up with. And since you get Concentration, good Mana only adds options. You always get at least 17 strength too. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/27/2009 at 14:08 (GMT -5) by Silfir] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4251 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
What does a high elf add for skills? Dodge is just pathetic, literacy has a decent chance of happening anyway. Most other races have much more to offer skillswise, and better survival stats too. Arguably gnomes have better spellcasting stats with Gemology. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4162 days, 1 hour, 25 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
hurthling. Especially if you go through answers and choose answers with negative strength modifiers... A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Mi Hai Loo Registered user Demented kobold Last page view: 5392 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
Wow. I managed to run gnomish smith - my first working smith at all. I tried it before, but they all died. This smith died, too, but managed to raise his DV/PV to 102/45 - not bad for 15 lvl character. Still, too bad for character who spent about 45 days digging and smithing... |