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questionmarkhead Registered user New Player Last page view: 6495 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
My promising young Dark elf paladin just got toasted; so I've come here to whine and complain, and ask stupid questions (this happend in the CoC). Is this rare? (the encounter, not how bad I am at the game). Whats going on here? |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3966 days, 13 hours, 28 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
More details, please? Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
You must have run into a "Surge of Power". This message is generated the first time you enter any given level, and is quite rare. I actually call that lucky. This means that a guarded artifact was generated when you entered the level. The guardian this time happened to to be a barbarian, he was randomly generated a name. And yes, the guardians are quite a bit harder than their normal counterparts Did you see what artifact he was guarding? Pity if it was the Black Book. |
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Echo Registered user Last page view: 3788 days, 4 hours, 43 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
The black tome is quite useful if you read it before you get your corruption cured by the white unicorn. |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 10 hours, 39 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
It does not happen often. I have seen it two or mabye three times in my career. |
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questionmarkhead Registered user New Player Last page view: 6495 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Thanks. I did get the "surge of power message", but I couldn't see what artifact it was. |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5216 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Hell, I've been sooo goddamn lucky then last week.. Firstly, I got the black tome, but the character died. Secondly, with another character, I got one surge of power-message on puppy cave the second last level there. He was guarding the rune-covered club, and was somewhat easy to beat the guardian. It was a griffon. |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5686 days, 20 hours, 10 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
hmm, I just picked up the rune-covered club in my current game and it was a griffon also. Maby these are hard-coded into adom. What was his name btw? if it's in the puppy cave then I suppose you'll be training in clubs? "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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BattleAxe Registered user Last page view: 6543 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
I got a "Surge in Power" there before in the puppy cave and the guardian was a choas rat(easily taken out with my drakeling breath). The artifact was a scorched spear. However, I also had a "Surge in Power" message that the guardian was a Hill Orc. I guess these guardians are random. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3810 days, 7 hours, 7 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
yes, they're random. Guardians, artifacts, the level the artifact was generated on, and guardian names are all random.. For the Horde! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 5 hours, 26 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
Random must hate me. I've not once in my lifetime found a Surge of Power. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Asdas Registered user Last page view: 6960 days, 8 hours, 28 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Same here. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3810 days, 7 hours, 7 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
well I've had about 6 or 7 surges of power, but no wand of wishing.. For the Horde! |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5824 days, 11 hours, 41 minutes and 23 seconds ago. |
Surges are indeed VERY rare. During all the years I've been playing ADOM I've maybe had some 10 surges tops. Even WoWi's are more common (then again, they can be found by scumming some place unlike surges). One funny case was when I got a named karmic lizard while playing a bard... Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Just a point of interest. Surges of Power cannot happen in the Infinite Dungeon. Just like Pools, Merchant Shops, Royal vaults and the like |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5686 days, 20 hours, 10 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
I meant for a single artifact. Like will the guardian for the rune-covered club always be a griffon? or will the scorched-spear guardian always be a chaos rat? "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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BattleAxe Registered user Last page view: 6543 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
As with my previous post I had once a choas rat and once for a Hill Orc for the Scorched spear. Seems like that the guardian generated for a certain artifact will be random. |
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Echo Registered user Last page view: 3788 days, 4 hours, 43 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
I got the Preserver from Poon, the cave bear :D |
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Knud Registered user non-ghost librarian Last page view: 5895 days, 7 hours, 44 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
My dark elven elementalist recently got Long Sting from Mur-Amanoch the gargoyle (cool name!). Best character I've had in ages, he sadly got killed today by a server failure at level 20... I've GOT to stop playing Adom at work! You know you've played too much ADOM when you try to throw coins at people wearing similar clothes as yourself. |
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Nchurmdaz Registered user Goblin flash mobber Last page view: 6198 days, 19 hours, 22 minutes and 36 seconds ago. |
You have to back up your chars - that's it. Ubi patria ibi bene! |
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tongHoAnh Registered user adoomed Last page view: 6837 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
But still, STOP playing ADOM at work. It is game-abuse :D My RL dumpyard: http://www.geocities.com/ceruleannebula/index.html |
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questionmarkhead Registered user New Player Last page view: 6495 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Sorry for posting in such an old thread, but a character I just made ran into another surge of power message. The character is a level 2 female high-elven archer (randomly generated, I don't usually play female characters), and is in the third level of the CoC. Should I try to kill the guardian, or come back later? |
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questionmarkhead Registered user New Player Last page view: 6495 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Nevermind. I killed a named black wizard and got an emerald dagger called "Serpent's Bite", that I really, really hope is an artifact. |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
It is. You're lucky you got such an easy guardian to kill with an archer... and even luckier it didn't try and summon. |
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*Chaos Muffin* Registered user Chaotic Awesome Last page view: 6335 days, 9 hours, 23 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Serpent bite is humanoid slyer and perma-poisoned. My last surge of power in the puppy caves was a named lightning vortex, i tried to run, but didnt get far... *<< Words go here >>* |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5824 days, 11 hours, 41 minutes and 23 seconds ago. |
Having an animal artifact guardian and a bard PC is quite nice as one can just tame the guardian with music and take the artifact without resistance. At least once that happened to me (bard PC, karmic lizard artifact guardian). Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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ej Unregistered user |
lol, you already said that in your above post real j. :P. serpent bite is a really good artifact. human slayer, posion, and extra chance to score critical hits, and you could also throw it, because your an archer your extra good at that, if you meet a strong humanoid, like some of the temple guardians. |
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Silfir Unregistered user |
Perfect melee weapon for an archer, if you ask me. Poison and humanoid slaying are powerful assets, and daggers are the perfect weapon class to train for archers anyway. (unless you are in the possession of a masterwork eternium two-handed sword of penetration or something and don't need phase daggers for the high-PV-baddies.) Don't throw stuff that you won't get back, it's almost never worth it. Most of the time, you just miss and that's it. |
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ej Unregistered user |
I dont see why the dagger class is especially good for archers, why would an archers do any better with a dagger then a fighter, priest or barbarian would, for example? And I agree that maybe you shouldn't throw it unless you can miss it for a while, but you'll always get it back in the end, so it might be worth it. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 4 hours, 44 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
For archers, as for spellcasters, spear + shield is the best option. Whip + shield also works well for DV if you have the patience to train it up - only problem is that all whips burn. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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