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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 11 hours, 26 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
EDIT: Lithium man: The simplest metal. This challenge game is about finishing the game without visiting any unnessesary dungeons. You will go to the CoC and ToF in this game. I decided to start this new thread instead of corrupting the "handy tips" thread, after the subject of lithium man came up. What are good candidates for that challenge? I see some things about it: No ID scumming for books and no library visit. (weaker for casters? wizards/mabye? But less items for other classes too) No herbalism/healing unless you start with it. (candle can fix healing. Herbalism might be good to have but not vital) No detect traps unless you start with it. (I'm really thinking dwarf here. But survivable without I should imagine) No pickpocket. (I'll live without I think) Have to handle the dwarftown portal lever yourself (Hm.) No Ring of the High kings. (Can be handled) No loot from darkforge. (annoying) Further down the line, I suppose corruption might be a problem. No corpses to turn in for PoCC, No HMV scroll, No library scrolls, No bugville. If unable to save Khelly you should really hope for some from the dwarven mystic. I'll give this some testing. I will first attempt to merely complete the game by just visiting those locations, that should be hard enough for me. I'll try a dwarven something. Wizard or mabye Priest. Please note down any progress you may have had or information you have learned trying this. I did look up the google group, and found this: "hmm .. here's a few tips, based on my experience of one lithium man winner; * Save Khelavaster or get a *spellbook, NOT A WAND* of teleportation to get rid of Thrundarr to open the portal. * Do the Water temple before the ToEF. And, of course, having offensive magic from all the elements helps a lot - which is why I played an elementalist and was *very* happy to get a wish to waste on spellbooks of acid ball.. .. anyway, controlled teleportation at will, and *getting a means of death ray resistance* are vital for a lithium man, as you can't get the usual love-child artifacts (AMW, ankh, elemental gaunts, RotHK, etc etc) and are generally weaker than usual characters. But, good luck for your char! -- Markku Rikola (21st century schizoid boy) " [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/15/2008 at 17:00 (GMT -5) by Molach] |
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Battle bunny Registered user I'm just that cool Last page view: 6038 days, 1 hour, 49 minutes and 33 seconds ago. |
It might be handy to post what the actual Lithium Man challenge is. I don't totally get it. (\_/) (o.0) (> <) ( / \ ) Don't click this http://www.mindistortion.net/iwantyoursoul/?i_am=Darkcutter |
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zv Registered user Last page view: 5871 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Lithium Man = win while visiting only CoC and ToEF. My opinion - use the classes with good built-in powers to handle everything. Mindcrafters, necromancers and weaponsmiths seem particularly well-suited for this. On the racial side, dwarves and drakelings look good, while elves and trolls seem particularly (spelling?) hard. |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Regarding the lithium man challenge. I never actually tried for it, but I remember doing it once by accident. It was (long ago!) in ADOM 1.0.0. I used a grey elven wizard, got lucky and found a book shop on one of the levels before dwarftown. This broke the game for sure, but I didn't care. I just wanted to beat the game in the fewest amount of game-turns possible. At the time, I didn't even know this was a challenge game. I just thought, at the end of the game, that it was really unique. That's why that game kinda stuck in my mind. I fully intended to skip all other places in the game, not for challenge reasons, just for game-turn reasons, but planned to do the pyramid for the AMW + Ankh. Well, I missed the pyramid because my exp. level turned 17. So I just zipped through the game, only visiting the ToEF. I forget what situation caused me to miss the pyramid, but I suspect something like getting bogged down with a breeder. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 6 hours, 14 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Spelling of "particularly" seems alright to me, zv. Back on topic, I've not been playing much ADOM recently, but I might try the Lithium Man challenge today with a druid, seeing as I'm currently writing a guide for druids. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 11 hours, 26 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
Tried with a few wizards. One found a pool on D:1 (shock resist, teleport control) but later died to poison. A few others died miserably too, didn't get to build up PV to survive much. Got tired of them weaklings. Got a good one running now. He already had a hairy moment - he had to run from an infestation of red worms. Closed himself into a rather small room. Luckily he started with 2 bolt-spell books and found another of lightning bolt. And luckily there was a nice 2*2 bush pattern in the room with him (morgia + moss). And luckily he had bought some cooked lizards. But I still thought I was dead, as I saw no way to clear the worms quickly enough (there was a rather big room filled with them just out the next corridor) The fiery worms destroyed every piece of equipment I had, and my problem was that I ran out of PP before I could clear them out of the first, long, bending corridor to the next door. But after getting some levels, and building up willpower and toughness and dex from the herbs, and even mana from casting spells so much I was finally able to clear them with bouncing lightning bolts. Whew. So now I've got some time invested in him he might work out. Need to work on a precrown, need to smith, need other herbs...hm. Wonder how hard this can be. Wizards are usually so easy for me I hardly play them anymore. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
I must say that some things like herbs and smithing are somewhat against the grain of the challenge - the idea being to complete the game in as little time as possible. Of course, they're not restricted, and they do help. Of special consideration is that after bypassing the Eternal Guardian you're best never resurfacing again, so be ready for a full plunge to the finish. Many things are best left to the side so that you don't get too corrupted, and if there's a faster way of doing something then do it. For a greater vault you may want to just teleport in to get the artifacts then teleport out. Levels can be hard to gain, making gnomes fairly effective. Elementalists are handy since they don't need weapons and equipment so much, though they'll run into trouble with karmic dragons. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Silfir: That's funny, because I presently have about 25K written on a druid's guide. I'm sending what I have to you, do with it as you see fit. Darren: Herbs are against the spirit of the challenge? Yikes! Herbs don't really take that many turns, to harvest. If you apply the herbalism skill, it really speeds things up a lot. You can still do the challenge in under 40000 turns, using herbs. I wonder what is the average number of turns, for a completed lithium man game. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
Actually, good point, herbs can be harvested fairly quickly and then simply applied throughout the game. I'm thinking too much of my extended scumming sessions with sickness, time spent pacifying big room, whilst also gathering stomafilia for a precrown, etc. Looking at some flgs on RGRA they actually take their time about it - 100k in one instance, and the fastest I can see is 56k. The actual game time is less though - 31 days in one instance. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 11 hours, 26 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
First time I'll do it, any way I can. And that will probably include a precrown, mabye two. Regular crowning too, one should probably hope to find fire immunity artifact or crowning - I usually wear ring of the HK and elemental gauntlets in the ToEF (D-oh) as they provide fire resist and cannot be destroyed. And elemental gauntlets will keep rings safe, but. Hm. What gauntlets to use? I suppose they will all burn. Mabye "scum" for metal ones to chain-use. (scum as in picking up all the useless ones from ratling nasties) Or go without rings. Ring of Ice is mithril, I believe, so that should be okay. Still I guess a wizards could to the ToEF naked, if need be. Just thought up a new challenge. Character cannot wear or wield anything. Ever. Streaker man or naked man or something. Or if one must stick to metal-theme: Copper (tone) man. Not a good challenge to use an archer, I should think. |
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zv Registered user Last page view: 5871 days, 5 hours, 47 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
That challenged was already completed. I distinctly remember reading about it, because tactics used were amusing. Like taking a few corruptions from the first found trap to get some PV. Anyway, I'm trying to do a Lithium Dwarf too. Mindcrafters failed miserably (didn't ever manage to reach CoC, even with Long Stride and Candle :|), so I turned to Weaponsmiths. They are a bit challenged without Healing, Herbalism and when not born under Candle, but I hope that once I secure a forge and a pick axe I'll tank one up and never worry again. Though beating ToEF will be... interesting. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 6 hours, 14 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Dark elven druid still alive and kicking. Miraculously survived being ganged up on by a wolf AND a spider factory. I'm now in Dwarftown, angry because I have to kill a crystal statue after taking years to kill two of them before. @ gut: The parts you wrote are looking great. Are you sure you don't want to write the rest yourself? I'm not that far (Only got up to hurthling in the race evaluation), so I could always switch to another class to write about :) (My policy of only writing about classes I've won with allows for some other choices...) Also, if you ask me, druids should be called PRIMARY spellcasters, not semi-spellcasters. They're simply the primary spellcasting class that sucks the most at spellcasting early on. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
I also am jumping on the lithium man bandwagon. I've got a grey elven wizard up to the point where he's about to do the ToEF. Game-turns stand at 24000. I think I'm on track to do it in under 40000, but we'll have to see how the tower goes. Silfir: It doesn't matter to me, it's whatever you prefer. I started it a few weeks before the hollidays and lost interest. If I was to finish it, it would probably be a while. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Lithium man challenge. Only two places may be visited: The Caverns of Chaos and the Tower of Eternal Flames. The game must be completed in the fewest number of turns possible. This game had no scumming of any kind. No gremlin exploiting, no piety abuse, no stat scumming by means of starvation or sickness, no casino gold or dragon gold doubling, nothing. Additional restrictions were: No praying, no saving, and had to close the gate in under 40000 moves, else suicide. Went straight to the CoC. Read my spellbooks (lightning and frost bolt). Got lucky time and again. Early tension rooms provided me many spellbooks and an amulet of life-saving for Khelevaster. I actually spent more time in the big room, gathering herbs than I needed to, but I was getting many books in there too, so I stayed. The water orb was easy this time... I had a miserable time last time! The ToEF was easy because I had the frost bolt spell trained well, and I had the ice ball spell. I only had two rings of fire resistance though, so had to constantly heal myself with the cure light wounds spell. I got crowned neutral, once back in dwarftown. I had spent pretty much all my gold on piety, throughout the entire game, and never swithched allignment. I was rewarded with fire imunity and the Robes of Resistance. I kinda wish I had done that BEFORE the tower! After passing the EG, I stole what I wanted from the casino (Bracers of War, potions and some other stuff). This got me cursed, and I kept the cursing for the remainder of the game, because I never found an alter. I'm sure there was one, I just never found it. On D:35 I think, I found a threat room of greater molochs. I led them up the stairs and killed them, one by one, with a combination of lightning bolt and demon slaying ammo. I went from exp. level 20's to 30's. As a result, the rest of the game was easier than normal. I found a shop on D:47, it sold me the most unique item that I believe I have ever seen in a shop. An emperor lich figurine of wonderous power! I didn't use it though, I stuck it in my missile slot at the end of the game as a trophy! D:49 artifact was Executor, that plus acid ball made D:50 very easy. I shut the gate, teleported myself back to dwarftown, removed my intrinsic cursing, and left the chain. I forgot to rename my PC along the way, he finished with the name "Dfgd". I renamed him in the .flg. I wonder if that would cause him to show up in the HoF as a bugged score?
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Lizard St:29 Le:29 Wi:31 Dx:52 To:32 Ch:17 Ap:27 Ma:21 Pe:23 N= DV/PV:121/51 H:632(632) P:540(540) Exp: 50/26151997 DrCh M: 34663 Blessed Satiated Coward ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Dfgd Race: male Gray Elf Class: Wizard Eye color: blue Hair color: silver Complexion: pale Height: 6'8" Weight: 149 pounds Age: 306 (grown-up, 19 years of unnatural aging added in) Star sign: Unicorn Birthday: 4/Unicorn (day 94 of the year) YOUR HISTORY: Your parents belong to the nobility. They are rich, respected, wealthy and own more than they can count. During your childhood one of your uncles taught you a lot of things about the history of your people. Your vast knowledge on the legends and the lore of your people made you very popular with your friends because of all the exciting stories you knew. During your youth you embarked on many small journeys to nearby towns on behalf of your parents. You learned to know lots of people and made many friends. As a young adult you left your home because of trouble with your parents. They opposed your plans for the future without understanding your wishes. Thus you decided to live on your own. You wandered through the country for many years, growing older and wiser and learning many things. You decided to become a Wizard. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 5053 stones Carrying capacity: 25575 stones He: uncursed eternium cap [+0, +7] [28s] Ne: blessed necklace of the eye [3s] Bo: blessed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5} [60s] Gi: uncursed adamantium girdle [+0, +3] [18s] Cl: uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +6] [20s] RH: uncursed jet-black battle axe (named) (+2, 5d6+6) [-4, +1] {St+3} (+3 spd) LH: uncursed tower crystal shield (-3) [+13, +4] [260s] RR: uncursed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd) [1s] LR: uncursed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s] Br: blessed bracers of war [+8, +4] {Dx+8} [10s] Ga: uncursed gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [-1, +1] {St+3} [40s] // I got these on D:50. Only pair of the game! Bo: blessed seven league boots (+1, -1) [+1, +0] [30s] MW: - Mi: blessed emperor lich figurine of wondrous power [25s] Tl: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 4467 stones Carrying capacity: 25575 stones Helmets ('[') blessed helm of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1} [100s] uncursed helm of water breathing [+0, +1] [30s] uncursed crown of lightning [+0, +1] (+5 spd) [65s] uncursed helm of teleportation [+0, +1] [50s] Armor ('[') uncursed black dragon scale mail (-1, -3) [-2, +11] [200s] Gauntlets ('[') blessed white dragon-hide gauntlets (-2, +0) [+0, +2] [10s] blessed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +4] [15s] uncursed alchemistic gloves [+0, +0] [6s] blessed gauntlets (-1, +0) [+3, +2] [10s] Cloaks ('[') // Found in the big room of the CoC. It made // herb gathering a lot easier. uncursed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+1, +0] [30s] uncursed cloak of defense [+3, +0] [20s] uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s] blessed hooded cloak (+1, +1) [+1, +3] [40s] uncursed hooded cloak [+4, +0] [40s] Girdles ('[') uncursed girdle of greed [+0, +0] [7s] Boots ('[') // Started the game with these, and wore them // all the way to D:45. uncursed sandals (+1, +1) [+0, +3] [6s] uncursed eternium boots (+1, +1) [+2, +5] [55s] Necklaces (''') heap of 2 uncursed amulets of perseverance {Wi+3} [6s] heap of 2 uncursed amulets of light [6s] uncursed necklace of the eye [3s] heap of 2 uncursed amulets of the cold heart {Ch-12} [6s] uncursed necklace of rabies resistance [2s] uncursed amulet of health [3s] heap of 2 uncursed amulets of balance [6s] heap of 2 uncursed necklaces of rapid healing [4s] uncursed amulet of water breathing [3s] blessed amulet of teleport control [3s] blessed amulet of balance [3s] uncursed amulet of speed (+3 spd) [3s] Bracers (',') heap of 2 uncursed brass bracers [+0, +0] [20s] uncursed bracers of speed [-3, +0] (+4 spd) [10s] uncursed bracers of defense [+2, +0] [10s] One-handed weapons ('(') uncursed phase dagger (+0, 1d4) [5s] blessed eternium dagger (+0, 2d4+7) [5s] blessed lead-filled mace "Big Punch" (+1, 8d5+3) [-6, +0] [800s] blessed pick axe of vampirism (+3, 1d6+1) [75s] uncursed eternium flail (+2, 4d4+10) [66s] uncursed whip of slaughtering (-4, 1d30) [15s] // From a greater vault. A bit of a let down. blessed scorched spear (+2, 3d8+1) [+2, +0] [50s] uncursed phase dagger (+0, 1d4+1) [5s] Missile weapons ('}') uncursed light crossbow of accuracy (+8, +0) [70s] uncursed short bow (+1, +0) [20s] uncursed short bow of accuracy (+4, +0) [20s] Missiles ('/') bundle of 4 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+1, 2d6+6) [4s] bundle of 5 uncursed griffon-feathered mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [10s] bundle of 7 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+2) [14s] bundle of 19 uncursed arrows of construct slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [38s] bundle of 3 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+2, 2d6+6) [3s] bundle of 14 uncursed arrows of thunder (+0, 1d6) [28s] bundle of 5 uncursed arrows of dragon slaying (+3, 1d6+5) [10s] uncursed boomerang of slaying (+3, 2d4+1) [20s] bundle of 4 uncursed eternium drakish scurgari (+9, 2d8+9) [20s] uncursed quarrel of demon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [4s] bundle of 8 uncursed quarrels of humanoid slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [32s] bundle of 4 uncursed adamantium arrows (+3, 1d6+8) [4s] bundle of 7 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [14s] bundle of 6 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+3, 2d6+8) [6s] bundle of 2 uncursed arrows of slaying (+0, 1d6) [4s] bundle of 8 uncursed arrows of giant slaying (+4, 1d10+6) [16s] bundle of 5 uncursed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+5) [10s] bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels of undead slaying (+6, 2d6+6) [20s] bundle of 2 blessed quarrels of dragon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [8s] bundle of 5 uncursed arrows of jelly slaying (+6, 2d4+3) [10s] bundle of 4 uncursed eternium drakish scurgari (+11, 2d8+9) [20s] bundle of 4 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+4, 2d6+9) [4s] Tools (']') heap of 2 uncursed torches [20s] uncursed box with flint and steel (5) [5s] uncursed tinderbox (11) [3s] heap of 4 uncursed small keys [4s] heap of 2 uncursed square keys [2s] uncursed tinderbox (30) [3s] blessed hexagonal key [1s] heap of 5 uncursed hexagonal keys [5s] heap of 2 uncursed triangular keys [2s] heap of 2 uncursed tiny keys [2s] blessed waterproof blanket [10s] blessed fireproof blanket [10s] heap of 3 uncursed round keys [3s] uncursed magical writing set (4) [5s] uncursed tinderbox (23) [3s] Rings ('=') uncursed ring of luck [1s] uncursed ring of protection +1 [1s] heap of 2 uncursed rings of fire resistance [2s] uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s] blessed ring of damage [1s] blessed ring of searching [1s] heap of 2 uncursed rings of cold resistance [2s] uncursed ring of searching [1s] blessed ring of fire resistance [1s] // Found these two wishes early, // but never needed to use them. uncursed ring of djinni summoning [1s] heap of 3 uncursed rings of invisibility [3s] blessed ring of acid resistance [1s] blessed ring of djinni summoning [1s] uncursed ring of the clear mind [1s] uncursed ring of damage [1s] uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1} [1s] uncursed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s] uncursed ring of doom [1s] Wands ('\') uncursed wand of item detection (5 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of wonder (3 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of fireballs (2 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of trap detection (4 charges) [3s] blessed wand of monster creation (5 charges) [3s] blessed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s] blessed wand of fireballs (12 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of trap creation (7 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of ball lightning (4 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of magic missiles (2 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of monster creation (5 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of cold (2 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of poison (2 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of lightning (2 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of lightning (2 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of fire (3 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of monster detection (0 charges) [3s] blessed wand of paralyzation (5 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of wonder (5 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of monster detection (6 charges) [3s] cursed wand of poison (9 charges) [3s] blessed wand of monster creation (1 charge) [3s] uncursed wand of lightning (4 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of fire (2 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of earthquakes (3 charges) [3s] blessed wand of door creation (8 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of trap creation (7 charges) [3s] Potions ('!') heap of 4 uncursed potions of invisibility [16s] heap of 2 cursed potions of invisibility [8s] blessed potion of extra healing [2s] heap of 11 uncursed potions of carrot juice [44s] heap of 13 uncursed potions of water [52s] heap of 3 potions of unholy water [12s] heap of 5 uncursed potions of booze [20s] heap of 3 uncursed potions of healing [12s] heap of 11 potions of holy water [44s] uncursed potion of poison [4s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of visibility [8s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of stun recovery [4s] heap of 4 uncursed potions of cure poison [8s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of exchange [8s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of balance [8s] heap of 4 blessed potions of ultra healing [8s] heap of 4 blessed potions of insight [8s] blessed potion of boost perception [2s] uncursed potion of ultra healing [2s] heap of 4 uncursed oils of rust removal [8s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of boost speed [4s] uncursed potion of raw chaos [2s] blessed potion of deafness [2s] uncursed potion of boost learning [2s] blessed potion of poison [4s] blessed potion of carrot juice [4s] blessed potion of boost strength [2s] uncursed berzio potion [2s] uncursed potion of deafness [2s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of boost strength [4s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of extra healing [4s] uncursed potion of potential learning [4s] uncursed potion of potential toughness [4s] uncursed potion of potential dexterity [4s] uncursed potion of boost dexterity [2s] cursed potion of booze [4s] uncursed potion of potential strength [4s] blessed potion of charisma [4s] cursed potion of balance [4s] uncursed potion of boost willpower [2s] Scrolls ('?') blessed scroll of identify [2s] heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of satiation [8s] heap of 2 uncursed blank scrolls [4s] heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of balance [4s] heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of increase melee damage [6s] heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [8s] uncursed scroll of monster detection [2s] uncursed scroll of item detection [2s] heap of 14 uncursed scrolls of identify [28s] heap of 5 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [10s] blessed scroll of familiar summoning [2s] uncursed scroll of vermin control [2s] blessed scroll of dark predictions [2s] uncursed scroll of monster aggravation [2s] uncursed scroll of dark predictions [2s] uncursed scroll of charging [2s] uncursed scroll of repair [2s] uncursed scroll of great identify [2s] heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of defense [4s] cursed scroll of great identify [2s] uncursed scroll of teleportation [2s] uncursed scroll of magic mapping [2s] heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of power [4s] uncursed scroll of chaos resistance [2s] Books ('"') uncursed spellbook of Acid Ball [100s] Food ('%') uncursed loaf of elven bread [3s] heap of 26 uncursed cooked lizards [78s] heap of 8 uncursed demon daisies [16s] heap of 60 blessed moss patches of mareilon [120s] heap of 5 uncursed bits of gnomish candy [10s] heap of 56 blessed morgia roots [112s] heap of 8 blessed burb roots [16s] heap of 47 blessed pepper petals [94s] uncursed stomacemptia herb [2s] heap of 9 blessed stomacemptia herbs [18s] heap of 15 uncursed stomafillia herbs [30s] heap of 9 blessed stomafillia herbs [18s] heap of 26 blessed spenseweeds [52s] heap of 17 uncursed spenseweeds [34s] heap of 6 blessed demon daisies [12s] heap of 18 blessed alraunia antidotes [36s] heap of 10 blessed devil's roses [20s] heap of 6 uncursed curaria mancox herbs [12s] heap of 13 blessed curaria mancox herbs [26s] heap of 2 uncursed lumps of gelee royal [6s] heap of 3 uncursed iron rations [300s] uncursed large ration [200s] uncursed loaf of dwarvish bread [60s] blessed melon [20s] Valuables ('$') 20227 gold pieces [202s] Gems ('*') uncursed crystal of fire [1s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weapon Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Unarmed fighting 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 50 Daggers & knives 5 +4 +2 +1 skilled 277 Clubs & hammers 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 50 Maces & flails 6 +4 +2 +1 skilled 216 Swords 2 +2 +0 +0 basic 80 Axes 6 +4 +3 +1 skilled 434 Whips 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 50 Pole arms 4 +4 +1 +3 skilled 44 Twohanded weapons 1 +1 +1 +0 basic 50 Staves 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 50 Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Bows 6 +12 +9 +2 skilled 237 Crossbows 3 +6 +4 +1 basic 36 Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 11 Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- ------------- -------------- Shields 8 +16 excellent 1408 Damage caused with your melee weapons: -------------------------------------- ÆRight hand: Î+39Æ bonus to hit, Î5d6+18Æ damage Damage caused with your missile weapons: ---------------------------------------- ÆAmmunition: Î1Æ, base range: Î2Æ, Î+25Æ bonus to hit, Î3d4+17Æ damage ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alchemy ..................100 (superb) [+2d4] Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+1] Climbing ................. 69 (good) [+1d3] Concentration ............100 (superb) [+2d4] Dodge .................... 70 (good) [+1] First aid ................ 85 (great) [+1d3] Haggling ................. 70 (good) [+1d3] Healing ..................100 (superb) [+1d3] Herbalism ................100 (superb) [+2d4] Listening ................100 (superb) [+3d3] Literacy .................100 (superb) [+2d4] Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+1d3] Tactics ..................100 (superb) [+1] Two weapon combat ........ 71 (great) [+1] Ventriloquism ............ 73 (great) [+1d3] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- // Balor killer! Acid Ball : 362, 19pp (Effectivity: +13) Acid Bolt : 998, 7pp (Effectivity: +10) Bless : 67, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Burning Hands : 665, 4pp (Effectivity: +25) Calm Monster : 322, 5pp (Effectivity: +0) Create Item : 66, 201pp (Effectivity: +0) Cure Critical Wounds: 71, 12pp (Effectivity: +0) Cure Disease : 65, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Cure Light Wounds : 1255, 2pp (Effectivity: +9) Cure Serious Wounds : 72, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Darkness : 1835, 2pp (Effectivity: +8) Death Ray : 70, 78pp (Effectivity: +0) Destroy Undead : 64, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Disarm Trap : 1012, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Earthquake : 65, 65pp (Effectivity: +0) Farsight : 842, 10pp (Effectivity: +6) Fire Bolt : 1269, 5pp (Effectivity: +16) Fireball : 66, 16pp (Effectivity: +1) Frost Bolt : 1082, 6pp (Effectivity: +23) Greater Identify : 66, 81pp (Effectivity: +0) Heal : 82, 29pp (Effectivity: +0) Ice Ball : 1076, 14pp (Effectivity: +8) Identify : 327, 45pp (Effectivity: +0) Improved Fireball : 70, 24pp (Effectivity: +0) Invisibility : 763, 5pp (Effectivity: +6) Knock : 1240, 7pp (Effectivity: +8) Know Alignment : 321, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Light : 929, 1pp (Effectivity: +5) Lightning Ball : 72, 23pp (Effectivity: +0) // I started with lightning bolt, and soon found a // second book. It was very powerful, once trained. Lightning Bolt : 450, 6pp (Effectivity: +40) Magic Lock : 651, 5pp (Effectivity: +4) Magic Map : 69, 32pp (Effectivity: +0) Magic Missile : 895, 4pp (Effectivity: +5) Mystic Shovel : 521, 59pp (Effectivity: +5) Neutralize Poison : 187, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Petrification : 65, 98pp (Effectivity: +0) Remove Curse : 76, 38pp (Effectivity: +0) Revelation : 315, 20pp (Effectivity: +0) Scare Monster : 73, 9pp (Effectivity: +0) Slow Monster : 491, 5pp (Effectivity: +0) Slow Poison : 1082, 4pp (Effectivity: +0) Strength of Atlas : 335, 5pp (Effectivity: +9) Stun Ray : 1146, 5pp (Effectivity: +0) Summon Monsters : 331, 18pp (Effectivity: +0) Teleportation : 1027, 11pp (Effectivity: +19) Web : 1232, 8pp (Effectivity: +1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His further life: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- After he leaves the Drakalor Chain he is welcomed by his people with great honors. They acknowledge his noble deeds, his valor, his cunning and his great skills that helped to prevent the complete destruction of the world he knows. He returns to his lands victorious and is hailed as a great leader. Eventually he becomes king and rule your subjects with an iron fist for a long and peaceful time, allowing his people to prosper and grow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His achievements during his adventures: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dfgd, the gray elven wizard, saved the world with his brave efforts and became a great ruler without even stopping to save himself. He scored 69160896 points and advanced to level 50. He survived for 0 years, 22 days, 16 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds (34663 turns). Dfgd visited 65 places. His strength score was modified by +13 during his career. His learning score was modified by +6 during his career. His willpower score was modified by +17 during his career. His dexterity score was modified by +10 during his career. His toughness score was modified by +20 during his career. His charisma score was modified by +4 during his career. His appearance score was modified by +4 during his career. His mana score was modified by +2 during his career. His perception score was modified by +4 during his career. He was unnaturally aged by 19 years. He was the champion of the arena. He adhered to the principles of the Cat Lord and thus rose to great fame. He saved Khelavaster from certain death. He left the Drakalor Chain after completing his quest and became a great leader and famous hero. 2457 monsters perished under his attacks. The following 14 artifacts were generated during his adventure: // Fewst artifacts ever? 14, but 5 were orbs. the si the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle" the ring of the master cat the golden gladius "Death's Sting" the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water the Chaos Orb of Elemental Air the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire the Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth the lead-filled mace "Big Punch" the scorched spear the bracers of war the Chaos Orb of Elemental Mana the jet-black battle axe "Executor" the robes of resistance He possessed the following intrinsics: He was fire resistant (gained through an item). He was poison resistant. He was acid resistant (enhanced through an item). He was lucky (enhanced through an item). Fate smiled upon him (enhanced through an item). He was cursed (gained through an item). He was sleep resistant (gained through an item). He was able to control teleportation. He was stun resistant (gained through items). He was resistant to death rays (gained through an item). He was shock resistant (enhanced through items). He was able to see invisible things (gained through an item). He was immune to fire attacks. He was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through items). He had the following talents: Alert, Careful, Charged, Durable Magic, Extended Magic, Extremely Hardy, Hardy, Learned, Mighty Aura, Miser, Potent Aura, Shield Specialist, Strong Aura, Strong Healer, Strong Magic, Treasure Hunter, Very Careful, Very Hardy. He had a final speed score of 132 (final base speed: 118). He was a messiah of Ayssia. He did not ask for divine help. He was a holy champion of Balance. I was a bit surprised to see that I visited 65 places! I counted them all and it adds up. 1. There was the level between D:2 and D:3. 2. Ogre cave 3-4. DH 1 and 2 5-6-7-8. ToEF 9-10-11-12-13-14-15. Mana Temple. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/18/2008 at 06:36 (GMT -5) by gut] |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5824 days, 12 hours, 28 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
gut: regarding the cursing from shoplifting: AFAIK cursing and dooming can be removed using scrolls of luck, at least ISTR that. It could be that it requires blessed scrolls but I have a fairly strong memory image of managing to remove at least cursing that way. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
Very nice! Surprised to see a victory on here so quickly, and quite a good one too. 35k turns is extremely impressive. Interesting to see what effect it has on your score - you got more than double the regular amount. Certainly very few artifacts generated, though less is obviously possible. Absolute minimum I guess would be 7 - the orbs, the si and moon sickle. Chances of never generating any others are extremely slim though. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
The Real J: Your definitely right about scrolls of luck. Uncursed, they will take your luck up by one notch. Like from 'doomed' to 'cursed', or from 'lucky' to 'lucky and fate smiles'. Blessed ones will take you up two notches. I would have liked to have one, but I didn't. In limited turns games, you will have few such luxuries. Many of the nice items you see in the inventory, are a result of D:50. The only way I could have gotten a Scroll of luck, was to wish for it. I thought about that seriously, but kept telling myself, I would probably find an alter on the next level if I did. Darren: The guide book has some things about the final score, the last line it has says: MAX(0, moves - 50000) * 100 I'm not sure exactly what that means, but if you win in under 50000 moves, it does inflater your score a lot. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5686 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
If that actually is the formula, you should get more score the more moves you make... MIN(0, Moves-50k)* (-100) should inflate your score... "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/18/2008 at 16:49 (GMT -5) by F50] |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 11 hours, 26 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
You cleared 2 elemental temples post-EG without finding an altar? Bad luck indeed :) Taking my time with mine. Not really turn-wise though. Think I'll not pacify big room, but harvest herbs while fighting stuff for the drops. Two birds with one stone. The first Orc scorcher he found threw a orcish spear of mayhem. Good thing it didn't hit me |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5686 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
I think the prefixes are only applied *after* the items are dropped. Battle axes of penetration won't penetrate until picked up and such. "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
There are 3 elemental temples, after passing the EG. I usually don't clear them. I could have converted the elemental alters, and used them, but I have been sacced before, and it is not pleasant. If there is a way to have %100 protection from being sacced, I simply don't know it. As far as the other levels, I didn't spend time searching them. I meant that I just didn't see one on the way. I can't remember any other games where I didn't get one on the way. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/18/2008 at 22:09 (GMT -5) by gut] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
Some of the temples are safe to convert when invisible, as long as you get rid of any chaos warriors. You could also make a wall of doors so they can't see you. F50: You're quite right about that, making the guidebook unusually wrong. A simplification of the formula would be MAX(0, 50k - no turns)*100. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
There is no way I would chance converting the earth alter, those monsters can move through doors and walls, plus see invisible and in the dark. Clearing the earth or mana temples completely just takes too much time. The only temple that would have been realistic (to me)to convert, would have been the air temple. Converting it, in the darkness, while invisible should have been %100 safe. At that early in the game though, I just didn't think about the possibility of not finding another alter. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
For the air temple it would have been easy to just put a door in the entrance to the central chamber and lock it. Earth temple I'm surprised you didn't clear actually - I normally rely on it to get to L50. I suppose you must've already had fun with your moloch friends by then... Y'know, I don't think I've ever actually converted a temple altar - generally considered it a bit too risky to bother with (and never had the need to). I once tried saccing a guardian and was told by the god to go sac myself instead... Probably a good thing considering it wouldn't have dropped the orb if sacced. Must try one game to convert all alters found - some ultra ultra lawful game or something, where I get the platinum girdle too. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 5108 days, 7 hours, 48 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Regarding the earth temple, I was completely out of PP's at the time. I REALLY didn't want to drag a dozen more earth elementals (and grues) up the stairs to melee them. In limited turns games, PP's are surely at a premium in the late game. Recharging 100's of PP's takes 100's of turns. Normally this isn't a big problem. I will just teleport myself to the surface by way of the DF shortcut, to recharge my PP's in the wilderness. In this game however, that wasn't an option. I did have the acid ball spell, but figured it would be too corrupting, to regenerate PP's that deep in the CoC. To be honest, I didn't even notice the cursing. It is very different than dooming. I would actually consider it more accurate to call it bad luck, than cursing. In fact I think a greater identify of the 'Executor' artifact says that it causes 'bad luck', when it really shows up as 'cursing' in your intrinsics. Had I been doomed, I certainly would have taken any measure to remove it. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Sandemar Registered user Last page view: 5166 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
I gave this challenge a go with a nonspellcaster (orc barb to be more precise). Result was surprisingly good due some unbelieveable luck in the early game. First I found RoDS on D:12 and saved Khelly. Then on level after the sage I find a ring shop with a ring of elemntal mastery, a ring of regeneration and a ring of ice. That gave me easy time in the tower. But never before had I killed the ACW with wand of magic missiles, my only offensive wand :P I had used some 35k turns when in tower. Not having a way to teleport was turn consuming. Had no luck with wands of wonder either. After the tower I started the dive to lower levels of CoC. Orcish spear of devastation (+1, 5d8+10) and a medium chrystal shield [+11,+4] were good combination. Everything fell fairly easy though mimics and Dorn Beasts gave some extra worry because I hadn't got any paralysis resistance. I had also Vanquisher as a crowning gift but it was almost useless because too low DV. After the "flaming" stairs RNG must have decided that I had had too much luck already or was it only my low experience of the true nature of the lithium man. Three tension rooms to casino and one lesser vault, three rooms full of ghosts and one undead vault. EG stopped my descend for a while because I had no means of precise teleportation, only a helm of teleportation. Luckily enough ghul on the eternal guardians level dropped a writing set. I managed to create a scroll of teleportation and got past the EG. Casino shop had Ironfist but otherwise very lame loot. I noticed that a gambling session took only one turn so I gambled in three long sessions to get the required 633k for Ironfist and some extra for slaying ammo, water, booze, unknown potions, and scrolls of identify and uncursing (because I had found only few from the dungeons). I lured cat lord to one level higher used scroll of teleportation to get away, waited that he started attacking me in the new place and teleported back to the down staircase. After cat lord level there was cavernous level, yet again divided by water. Ancient black dragon dissolved my helm of teleportation, my spear of devastation and piles of other stuff and in blind rage I vanquished it. Next level was the air temple and it had the first altar after water temple. I had found no random altars at all! I decided to descend in hopes of giant greater vault etc. Instead on D:40 I found room full of master liches. Vanquished a couple but found myself soon surrounded by ghosts and ghost lords. I was alreydy middle aged and decided to flee and change my ring of invis on. My iron gauntlets wont come off, that damn annis hag on that cavernous level. Check inventory, no scrolls of uncursing no holy water. I change Vanquisher to eternium spear and shield start to look for stairs, master lich summons some help! ghost lord punches trough your armour and crically hits you...I check background Age: 71, dead, 55 years of unnatural aging added in *damn*. I check inventory once more in hopes of any saving potions, nope as far as I know, move once more and the grim reaper appears in front of me and claims my life... Now afterwards praying for divine help for getting the gauntlets off jumps to my mind but no cry over spilled potion of milk, or something... All in all this was a very nice experience. Normally I have cleared VD/DD, PC and UD and maybe pyramid before arriving to CoC.Pickpocket every monster along the way so that my backpack is after that so full of stuff that I would have over ten different ways to kill for instance ACW but I always buff my char up to ridiculous stats and spend few exp. levels in the big room or in the TotHK to get even more stuff. New things (for me) that I discovered while playing this challenge: -New message: "The audience boos and throws vegetables." -Appeared when arena monster walked into a randomly created teleportation trap... -You dont need to own a scroll that you are about to create with magical writing set, its enough if you have once identified one (for some reason I have always thought that you need a model peace) -Orcs really and I mean really should avoid ghosts like plague :) -Keys and fireproof blanket got the appreciation what they deserve when a door trap destroyed two of my blessed scrolls of chaos resistance -Amulets of death ray resistance and free action are really like lottery wins without pick pockets -skill and with limited gameturns Snipped flg: TherapyII St:37 Le:17 Wi:28 Dx:23 To:19 Ch: 7 Ap: 3 Ma: 7 Pe: 8 N- DV/PV:117/36 H:0(271) P:30(70) Exp: 21/1491897 D: 40 M: 46063 Blessed Coward ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: TherapyII Race: male Orc Class: Barbarian Eye color: brown Hair color: black Complexion: brown Height: 5'11" Weight: 180 pounds Age: 71 (dead, 55 years of unnatural aging added in) Star sign: Sword Birthday: 14/Sword (day 194 of the year) YOUR HISTORY: Your mother was a wise shaman and healer. You didn't know your father and his origins seem to be very mysterious. As a child you were not accepted by the other children of your tribe. Your childhood was sad and lonely. In your youth you strived very hard to become the best warrior in your tribe. You watched, learned and became very strong and nimble. As a young adult you more and more separated from the more traditional members of your tribe. Your desire to see the outside world became overwhelming. At the age of 16 you left your tribe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 3453 stones Carrying capacity: 6975 stones Head : uncursed crown of regeneration [+0, +0] [55s] Neck : uncursed amulet of protection +2 [3s] Body : uncursed eternium plate mail (-1, -2) [-1, +13] [240s] Girdle : blessed adamantium girdle [+0, +3] [18s] Cloak : uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s] Right Hand : uncursed eternium spear (+2, 2d8+8) [25s] Left Hand : uncursed medium crystal shield (+3) [+11, +4] [160s] Right Ring : uncursed ring of slaying (+7 melee damage, +6 missile damage) Left Ring : uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +3] {Le+3} [1s] Bracers : uncursed bracers of regeneration [+0, +0] [18s] Gauntlets : cursed iron gauntlets "Ironfist" (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7} Boots : blessed adamantium boots [+0, +3] [89s] Missile weapon: uncursed heavy crossbow of accuracy (+12, +3) [140s] Missiles : bundle of 8 blessed quarrels of humanoid slaying (+3, 2d6+3) Tool : uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10} [100s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 2541 stones Carrying capacity: 6975 stones Helmets ('[') uncursed orcish helmet (+1, +1) [+1, +2] {Pe-2} [100s] Armor ('[') uncursed blue dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +10] [200s] uncursed light eternium plate mail (-1, -2) [-1, +13] [120s] Gauntlets ('[') uncursed rusty gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [-1, +1] {St+3} [40s] uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s] Girdles ('[') uncursed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s] Necklaces (''') heap of 2 uncursed amulets of the cold heart {Ch-12} [6s] uncursed amulet of petrification resistance [3s] uncursed amulet of light [3s] blessed amulet of balance [3s] Bracers (',') uncursed bracers of protection [+0, +2] [10s] uncursed bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd) [10s] Two-handed weapons ('(') blessed silvery two-handed sword "Vanquisher" (+3, 6d5+3) [-3, +0][300s] Missile weapons ('}') blessed long bow of hunting (+6, +3) [30s] uncursed short bow of accuracy (+8, +0) [20s] Missiles ('/') uncursed arrow (+0, 1d6+3) [2s] bundle of 29 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [58s] uncursed arrow (+2, 1d6) [2s] uncursed arrow (+0, 1d6+1) [2s] bundle of 24 blessed arrows (+0, 1d6) [48s] bundle of 3 uncursed adamantium drakish scurgari (+10, 1d8+7) [21s] bundle of 9 uncursed quarrels of demon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [36s] bundle of 5 uncursed drakish scurgari of returning (+2, 2d6+2) [50s] bundle of 9 cursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [18s] bundle of 6 uncursed arrows (+3, 1d6) [12s] blessed rusty quarrel (+1, 2d6) [2s] bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6+1) [10s] bundle of 4 uncursed mithril quarrels (+1, 2d6+3) [8s] bundle of 2 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6) [4s] bundle of 20 uncursed arrows (-1, 1d6) [40s] uncursed arrow (+3, 1d6+3) [2s] uncursed weighted arrow (+0, 1d6+4) [2s] blessed arrow of hunting (+0, 1d6+1) [2s] bundle of 16 blessed arrows (+2, 1d6) [32s] bundle of 4 blessed eternium arrows (+1, 2d6+8) [4s] bundle of 4 blessed quarrels of dragon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [16s] bundle of 18 uncursed arrows (+2, 1d6+2) [36s] bundle of 16 uncursed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [32s] bundle of 6 uncursed mithril arrows (+1, 1d6+6) [12s] bundle of 3 uncursed eternium arrows of slaying (+4, 2d6+8) [3s] bundle of 7 uncursed quarrels of humanoid slaying (+3, 2d6+4) [28s] bundle of 5 cursed arrows of humanoid slaying (+3, 1d6+5) [10s] bundle of 9 cursed arrows (+0, 1d6+1) [18s] bundle of 9 uncursed quarrels of giant slaying (+3, 2d8+4) [36s] bundle of 8 blessed quarrels of giant slaying (+6, 2d8+5) [32s] bundle of 6 uncursed mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+4) [12s] bundle of 3 cursed quarrels of dragon slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [12s] bundle of 6 uncursed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+5) [12s] bundle of 2 uncursed arrows of construct slaying (+3, 1d6+5) [4s] bundle of 10 blessed arrows (+0, 1d6+1) [20s] bundle of 6 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+3, 2d4+3) [12s] bundle of 20 blessed arrows (+0, 1d6-2) [40s] bundle of 7 uncursed adamantium arrows (+3, 1d6+8) [7s] bundle of 6 cursed arrows (+1, 1d6+1) [12s] bundle of 9 uncursed quarrels of jelly slaying (+3, 2d6+3) [36s] bundle of 12 uncursed arrows of giant slaying (+5, 1d10+3) [24s] bundle of 8 uncursed arrows of undead slaying (+6, 2d4+6) [16s] bundle of 11 cursed quarrels of jelly slaying (+3, 2d6+5) [44s] bundle of 4 uncursed quarrels of demon slaying (+4, 2d6+3) [16s] bundle of 3 uncursed adamantium arrows of thunder (+1, 1d6+6) [3s] bundle of 6 cursed quarrels (+0, 2d6) [12s] bundle of 3 uncursed adamantium quarrels (+3, 2d6+6) [3s] bundle of 5 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6-1) [10s] bundle of 2 uncursed eternium quarrels (+1, 4d6+8) [2s] Tools (']') uncursed box with flint and steel (22) [5s] uncursed waterproof blanket [10s] blessed fireproof blanket [10s] cursed hexagonal key [1s] heap of 3 uncursed square keys [3s] uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10} [100s] uncursed tiny key [1s] uncursed bandage [2s] cursed square key [1s] uncursed round key [1s] heap of 2 uncursed fluff balls [4s] blessed box with flint and steel (5) [5s] cursed round key [1s] Rings ('=') blessed ring of ice [1s] uncursed ring of invisibility [1s] uncursed ring of regeneration [1s] cursed ring of elemental mastery [+2, +0] [1s] uncursed ring of the fish [1s] heap of 2 blessed rings of searching [2s] uncursed ring of ice [1s] heap of 2 uncursed rings of doom [2s] uncursed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s] Wands ('\') uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of ball lightning (4 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of webbing (2 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of door creation (2 charges) [3s] blessed wand of fireballs (10 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of magic missiles (1 charge) [3s] uncursed wand of far slaying (10 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of monster detection (1 charge) [3s] blessed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of monster creation (2 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of stunning (0 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of trap creation (8 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of light (12 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of digging (4 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of trap detection (7 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of gold detection (2 charges) [6s] uncursed rusty wand of gold detection (0 charges) [6s] uncursed wand of item detection (3 charges) [3s] blessed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of fire (0 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of trap creation (8 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of fire (2 charges) [4s] blessed wand of door creation (6 charges) [3s] cursed wand of far slaying (0 charges) [3s] uncursed wand of destruction (0 charges) [3s] cursed wand of monster detection (5 charges) [3s] Potions ('!') heap of 7 uncursed potions of carrot juice [28s] uncursed potion of healing [4s] uncursed potion of invisibility [4s] blessed potion of balance [4s] heap of 3 uncursed potions of balance [12s] uncursed berzio potion [2s] heap of 4 uncursed potions of cure poison [8s] cursed potion of boost perception [2s] uncursed potion of boost charisma [2s] cursed potion of cure poison [2s] cursed potion of carrot juice [4s] uncursed potion of potential mana [4s] blessed potion of potential beauty [4s] blessed potion of cure poison [2s] heap of 8 uncursed potions of water [32s] heap of 4 uncursed potions of booze [16s] uncursed potion of potential willpower [4s] uncursed potion of boost mana [2s] cursed potion of healing [4s] uncursed potion of blindness [2s] uncursed potion of poison [4s] uncursed potion of troll blood [2s] heap of 2 blessed potions of booze [8s] heap of 4 potions of unholy water [16s] cursed potion of boost appearance [2s] cursed potion of raw mana [2s] uncursed potion of raw chaos [2s] cursed potion of troll blood [2s] uncursed potion of raw mana [2s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of sickness [4s] uncursed potion of insight [2s] uncursed potion of oil [2s] uncursed potion of uselessness [2s] blessed potion of beauty [4s] uncursed potion of boost appearance [2s] uncursed potion of training [2s] uncursed potion of gain attributes [4s] blessed potion of poison [4s] uncursed potion of exchange [4s] uncursed potion of boost willpower [2s] Scrolls ('?') heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of repair [6s] heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of balance [4s] uncursed scroll of protection [2s] heap of 3 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [6s] uncursed scroll of satiation [2s] uncursed scroll of monster detection [2s] heap of 2 cursed scrolls of item creation [4s] blessed scroll of monster detection [2s] cursed scroll of item detection [2s] uncursed scroll of increase melee damage [2s] uncursed blank scroll [2s] heap of 2 blessed scrolls of identify [4s] heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of light [6s] cursed scroll of defense [2s] cursed scroll of charging [2s] heap of 2 blessed scrolls of darkness [4s] cursed scroll of peace [2s] uncursed scroll of ill fate [2s] blessed scroll of protection [2s] cursed scroll of treasure creation [2s] uncursed scroll of gold detection [2s] uncursed scroll of great identify [2s] Food ('%') uncursed herb seed [2s] heap of 9 uncursed curaria mancox herbs [18s] heap of 8 blessed alraunia antidotes [16s] heap of 16 uncursed alraunia antidotes [32s] heap of 24 blessed stomacemptia herbs [48s] heap of 11 blessed curaria mancox herbs [22s] cursed morgia root [2s] heap of 8 cursed alraunia antidotes [16s] heap of 4 cursed stomafillia herbs [8s] heap of 2 cursed pepper petals [4s] heap of 2 blessed pepper petals [4s] heap of 2 uncursed pepper petals [4s] heap of 2 uncursed bits of gnomish candy [4s] heap of 4 uncursed plant seeds [8s] heap of 5 uncursed moss patches of mareilon [10s] uncursed burb root [2s] heap of 4 uncursed spenseweeds [8s] heap of 6 blessed spenseweeds [12s] heap of 2 cursed moss patches of mareilon [4s] Valuables ('$') 2709 gold pieces [27s] Gems ('*') heap of 2 uncursed crystals of darkness [2s] uncursed crystal of knowledge [1s] blessed crystal of power [1s] cursed crystal of light [1s] uncursed worthless piece of green glass [1s] uncursed aquamarine [1s] uncursed worthless piece of blue glass [1s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weapon Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Unarmed fighting 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 18 Daggers & knives 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 20 Clubs & hammers 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 20 Maces & flails 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 20 Swords 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 20 Axes 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 20 Whips 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 20 Pole arms 12 +14 +8 +16 Mastery 1694 Twohanded weapons 10 +10 +14 +4 excellent 1391 Staves 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 20 Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Bows 6 +12 +9 +2 skilled 23 Crossbows 4 +8 +6 +1 skilled 9 Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown rocks & clubs 1 +2 +1 +0 basic 12 Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 5 Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- ------------- -------------- Shields 9 +18 excellent 1036 Damage caused with your melee weapons: -------------------------------------- ÆRight hand: Î+33Æ bonus to hit, Î2d8+25Æ damage Damage caused with your missile weapons: ---------------------------------------- ÆAmmunition: Î8Æ, base range: Î14Æ, Î+38Æ bonus to hit, Î2d6+17Æ damage ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Athletics ................100 (superb) [+2d4] Backstabbing .............100 (superb) [+3d4] Climbing ................. 53 (good) [+4d4] Dodge ....................100 (superb) [+2d4] Find weakness ............100 (superb) [+1d5] First aid ................ 70 (good) [+3d4] Haggling ................. 17 (mediocre) [+3d4] Herbalism ................100 (superb) [+2d4] Listening ................100 (superb) [+4d4] Literacy ................. 61 (good) [+1] Metallurgy ............... 8 (poor) [+4d5] Mining ................... 23 (mediocre) [+3d4] Necromancy ............... 14 (mediocre) [+2d4] Smithing ................. 29 (mediocre) [+3d4] Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+1d5] Survival ................. 31 (fair) [+4d5] Swimming ................. 47 (fair) [+3d5] Tactics .................. 53 (good) [+1d3] Two weapon combat ........ 36 (fair) [+4d4] Woodcraft ................ 16 (mediocre) [+4d5] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cure Serious Wounds: 10, 19pp (Effectivity: +0) Darkness : 9, 7pp (Effectivity: +0) Death Ray : 2, 198pp (Effectivity: +0) Ice Ball : 1, 49pp (Effectivity: +0) Knock : 4, 23pp (Effectivity: +0) Light : 5, 5pp (Effectivity: +0) Lightning Ball : 9, 57pp (Effectivity: +0) Magic Missile : 6, 15pp (Effectivity: +0) Scare Monster : 9, 22pp (Effectivity: +0) Slow Monster : 3, 13pp (Effectivity: +0) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Effects of Corruption ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your antennae explore the details of your environment (Ap: -4). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His achievements during his adventures: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- TherapyII, the orcish barbarian, died of old age. He scored 470012 points and advanced to level 21. He survived for 0 years, 23 days, 18 hours, 17 minutes and 46 seconds (46063 turns). TherapyII visited 49 places. His strength score was modified by -5 during his career. His learning score was modified by +5 during his career. His willpower score was modified by +11 during his career. His dexterity score was modified by +11 during his career. His toughness score was modified by +1 during his career. His charisma score was modified by +3 during his career. His appearance score was modified by +1 during his career. His mana score was modified by +4 during his career. His perception score was modified by -2 during his career. He was unnaturally aged by 55 years. He was the champion of the arena. He saved Khelavaster from certain death. He ended his adventuring life on level 40 of the caverns of chaos. 4222 monsters perished under his attacks. The following nine artifacts were generated during his adventure: the si the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle" the potion of literacy the golden gladius "Death's Sting" the silvery two-handed sword "Vanquisher" the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire the lead-filled mace "Big Punch" the iron gauntlets "Ironfist" He possessed the following intrinsics: He was fire resistant. He was poison resistant. He was acid resistant. He was lucky. He was able to control teleportation. He was stun resistant (gained through an item). He was immune to ice attacks. He was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through an item). He had the following talents: Aggressive, Alert, Careful, Hardy, Miser, Natural Berserker, Tough Skin, Treasure Hunter. He had a final speed score of 107 (final base speed: 107). He was a paragon of his religion. He asked for 3 divine interventions. He was a holy champion of Balance. He was tainted by Chaos. The whole idea for this char was to be therapy for me: no more endless pondering of different options but just mindless bashing. Thats the story behind the char's name. Also he was second try 'Therapy', the human barbarian died on the way to CoC. The game happened to be everything else than mindless bashing or therapy so think I'll try soon again but this time wont have such a rush to lower levels. Instead stay in the big room for a while having fun wiht Vanquisher or some other crowning gift :D |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 6 hours, 14 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Once you've trained up the two-handed weapon skill to an excellent level, the damage of Vanquisher is so enormous you practically don't need DV at all... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Sandemar Registered user Last page view: 5166 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
I trained two-handed weapons to lvl 8 or 9 on lower levels of CoC. It vanquished easily all minor monster but monsters with high DV/PV got me down to few hitpoints in few rounds due my low DV/PV and low stats (for example fire elementals, fire giant kings, berserker emperors, etc,). Spear+ shield worked much better. It was too risky with Vanquisher even with coward tactics+ mighty or tremendous blows, if I missed my opponent, it had 2 or 3 rounds to hit me with multiple attacks and I had no means to heal quickly nor flee with teleportation. Regeneration took too long. No healing potions after I used all PoUH in the tower and just few spenseweeds because I didn't use time to farm herbs, just picked all bushes untill they disappeared. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4450 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
Wow, very nice run for your second attempt. Certainly had some luck with your items - got quite unlucky in the way you died though. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Sandemar Registered user Last page view: 5166 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Rather annoying. I used backupped svg. file to resurrect TherapyII. Quitted the game one turn before leaving D. Chain after closing the gate. 53255 turns, 5127724 points, 27 days, 23 hours 25 minutes, exp. lvl 43... If I just would have had bit more luck on the first try. Its depends on so little. It's nice no know that this char had what it takes but savescumming just ain't so glamorous. Yeap, maybe next time... |
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