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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
oh....boy, it'll take me forever to learn the use of every command......and I've been playin for a year now too..... well, made new gnomish mindcrafter, found a adamantanium scimitar in Puppy Cave, after healing, very nice, and bought large shield, first time I ever used haggling. Mindcrafters practically rape everything that's not undead or chaos, provided you have enough power points that is. Though fort the first time ever I accidentally used mindcraft on an undead: I thought that the damage that the manual stated was minor, but no, I accidentally attempted to use mind blast on a wight, and I lost 31 out of my 62 HP...and a mimic was right near me to boot.Luckily teleportitis from a pixie corpse kicked in:D Before that though, I spent 3 days trapped in the ant level, had to tame several, music skill is useful bugs and stupid animals. I think that if I am able to get sword of nonnak, this char will kick some serious butt. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Made it to CoC, just did Pyramid, going to try for at least one precrowning, then going to try graveyard. for the first time ever, I didn't clear the pyramid top level completely, way too hard for mindcrafter when I only have 200 PP and I have to deal with 2 steel golems, animated armor, and the undead mummies, among a mimic hivemind....no thanks, I'll pass. I was trapped in a corner after getting Rehetep to critically injured, and was trapped in a corner and started to read a book of heal, so I luckily teleported(note that my teleportitis did not kick in when I needed:D)and killed the bastard, and left...very close situation. I just wish I had more PP, but less range, because my mind blast goes beyond my vision, and I accidentally contacted a revenant...ouch "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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***Chaos Unregistered user |
i pretty much always use the fireball wand to deal with Rhetep and co Works like a charm - a big burning charm :p |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4360 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
well charged wand of teleport could be handy too. iirc, mindcrafters come with teleport control and there is one guaranteed. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
yeah, well I'm gonna hopefully get rid of teleportitis sometime, because I want to eventually attempt to make a gnomish mindcrafter archmage ...should be interesting. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Requin Unregistered user |
Monster char, trollish wizard named As. lvl19 just wiped ToeF down with ice ball(wi32). Wielding big punch and crystal tower shield. le27 ma21 st29 to 30. teleportitis and over 1k charges of teleport spell. Very good char, lets see how it goes. |
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Requin Unregistered user |
Got potion of education, blessed it and got necromancy. I wonder how it works with non-necromancer. |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Ghuls, that's how it works:D Trollish wizards are awesome, Requin, nice to see that someone else likes em. By far my most fav combo, will have to draw a pic of one sometime. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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requin Registered user The shadow of the janitor Last page view: 6405 days, 8 hours, 6 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
Had register finally here:) Yeah, they are great. got crowned too, received ring of immunity. |
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requin Registered user The shadow of the janitor Last page view: 6405 days, 8 hours, 6 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
Oh yeah, trollish wiz died because of my utter stupidity. I got a pet with a familiar summoning scroll - a Titan. I thought that he could prove useful in temples. I trained him to extremely experienced- he hit 1-5 times per round and had critted 450 at max per hit. So there I was, at earth temple, the mobs around me. Started Ice Balling them. Titan was in the range of Wi32 Iceball, I saw it, I knew he would get angry if I hit him and still, like my hands were possessed by some Adom poltergeist(the one that causes all stupid deaths) I just kept Ice Balling. Titan got hit and became "slightly hostile"(Havent gotten that kind of description of a mob before. happened because I had healed Titan previously a lot so he had become very fond of me). He was slightly hostile so I went into his melee range with healing him in my mind(tried to get him back to neutral), didnt have time to heal him. in one round he killed me. :( |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Reason why not to make long-term companions with non-bards, otherwise having a writing set and a SoFS is your best friend. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
Even bards will suffer if they nuke their pet extremely experienced killer bug pet, wont they? Tough luck. I have a winner going now. Never won with a priest before, but this one is pretty easy. Human Priest, about to enter earth temple. Game turned from "mabye" to "oh yes" when I found a wand of wishing with 4 charges in bug temple (as I was leaving, muahaha). I even needed to save the K., so good job there. Also serpent bite for precrown was nice. Along with wyrmlance. And I found executer somewhere. Crowning gift was crap, of course. I ate a lot of bugs, so now I have 9 willpower. But thats not so bad, I have no ball spells either (hmm, mabye time to wish for some...?) I still lug around 6 potions of gain attr., because I wanted to raise my WI up before quaffing them. And I still have 4 wishes, but gonna use one for acid ball books. And mabye strength of atlas as well, running somewhat low on them. Anyone know if I HAVE to wish for "rain of sorrow" books, or will acid ball work too? |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Well, arcane spells cost 2x as much for clericals, and clericals cost 3x as much for arcanes, so I'd play it safe, and wish for rain of sorrow. Currently have an extremely lucky drakish healer, 2 white pools in Puppy Cave, just got a wish from 2nd , 7LBs, I prefer to not let corruptions even happen. Going to risk char by emptying both pools, want an Rings of Invis for Vault, or daggers of death. Which is better, daggers of death, or phase daggers? "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5814 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Bigger damage dice are more useful in the early game, penetration is more useful in the late. That's my opinion anyway. You can't have both "acid ball" and "rain of sorrow" in one spell list, and the books aren't independent of eachother. "Rain of sorrow" is simply how acid ball appears on clerical characters. The spellbooks can probably be wished for by either name. Also, arcane spells don't cost more for clericals, or vice versa. It just takes more castings of the spell to raise the effectivity level. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5814 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Remember those dwarven merchants I mentioned? Well, here's a flg and what I wrote for it: Back when Adom was a brand new experience for me, before I ever read the guidebook or made it to the caves of chaos alive, I played dwarven merchants. I appreciated appraising and detect item status, as then I didn't have to run out to Barnabus' shop every time I found an interesting new weapon. Of course, I didn't know that altars and priests can discover an items b/u/c status much more easily. So, a parade of dwarven merchants wandered into the village dungeon and the puppy cave (I didn't even know that the druid gave a quest) to their deaths, and they were all in vain. Now that I have some experience under my belt, and the ability to use slightly more difficult characters, I've made this character as a tribute to the dwarves who bravely sacrified themselves to me, and as a homage to my days of Adom innocence. Now, I never keep track of everything that happens in game during the playthrough, so I don't have this character's life compiled in story format. I'll make sure to tell all the interesting parts somewhere in this file. Also, I haven't done the research on this, but this might be the first character to kill Andor with a thrown coin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Screenshot ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #################### ####### ### #... .# ..###.... ......#. #.. #.## #. #...#..... #...#.. ..# . ### ####.##.#..r...# .# #..#.. ##..#.## # ... #.. #..$...#...#. ...#..... ..#.#..#.. .. . ##.## ##.@....## #..# .###......# .........# .##..# ##.# #....#.## ...# ....#...... ...##...# .#.... #..........# .##..#.. #...#....#......##. #. .#. ##.##..#..## ....#. #........##....#.. #. ..#### ##.#..#..#.#. ...##. #......#..#.......#. .###..##... #...#.#.. #...##.... ......##..##...#.....#.....#..... #######.#.....#...# ..#.. #.#..............#..#.....# ## #....##. ..#........ ...#.. .# ....#.#....#..#.....# .# #..#..#. ....#.#.... .. #. .# .#...#.....#.....#...#.##.# ###..... ........## # #. #.###...#....##.......##..# #......# ..#..##.# .. ...........#.#.##..#.##....# #.#.##.. .....#..# ### .##.....#....###...........# # .. #.. ..#... #. #...#....#........#...##.## .#. #.# .#...#. ..#..................##..# ### ## ####### ######################## -When I teleported to the right side to meet Andor, he apparently teleported to the left side to meet me! It's like a badly written Adom sitcom. Tubirt St:85 Le:37 Wi:68 Dx:89 To:39 Ch:21 Ap:43 Ma:79 Pe:55 L+ DV/PV: 90/93 H: 815(815) P: 0(1347) Exp: 50/33121163 ChAoS Sp: 402 Blessed Bloated Berserk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Tubirt Race: male Dwarf Class: Merchant Eye color: brown Hair color: brown Complexion: brown Height: 3'9" Weight: 158 pounds Scars: 3 Age: 60 (young) -I never got aged a single year. Which is a shame, really. Grown-up brings a stat boost, doesn't it? Star sign: Unicorn Birthday: 3/Unicorn (day 93 of the year) -My birthday elapsed during this game, and I happened to run into a pool at the same time. I got death ray resistance from it, not bad at all. Yet, I don't think anything ever shot a death ray at me. YOUR HISTORY: Your parents are travelling adventurers. They are doing moderately well but are talented enough to survive. As a child you had to survive pretty harsh times since your parents seemed to have run out of luck. Their wealth was ever-declining and times were very hard. In your youth you worked a lot to become rich and famous later. Consequently you rarely had enough time to play with other kids of your age. As a young adult you left your home because of trouble with your parents. They opposed your plans for the future without understanding your wishes. Thus you decided to live on your own. You wandered through the country for many years, growing older and wiser and learning many things. You decided to become a Merchant. During your apprenticeship you specialized on magical potions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 11359 stones Carrying capacity: 64125 stones -I refuse to fall victim to packrat syndrome, which every other Adom player seems to suffer from. In fact, I think over 10000 stones is already too many. He: uncursed Crown of Chaos (-6, -6) [+0, +15] {Ma+10} (+10 spd) [500s] Ne: uncursed Medal of Chaos {Ap+12} [300s] -Ha! I forgot to take these off. Which means I had no paralyzation resistence while fighting Andor. Wow. Bo: uncursed fine leather armor (named) (+2, +0) [+2, +8] (+15 spd) [120s] Gi: blessed girdle of giant strength [+7, +6] {St+12} [30s] -This might be the second one of these I've found, ever. It was in the casino, and I was happy to buy it. Cl: blessed cloak of defense [+6, +7] [20s] RH: blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12] {Ma+24} LH: - RR: uncursed ring of the master cat [+0, +5] {Dx+16} (+16 spd) [1s] LR: uncursed ring of mental stability [+3, +1] {Le+1} [1s] -Had to use this for confusion resistance. Br: blessed rustproof bracers of regeneration [+7, +6] [18s] Ga: blessed rustproof gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [+11, +5] {St+3} [40s] -I do enjoy my smithing. Bo: blessed seven league boots [+6, +7] [30s] MW: - Mi: 99994 gold pieces [999s] -I got him critically injured, and then finished him off with a merchant's calling card. Tl: blessed torch (2466 turns of fuel remaining, lit) [10s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 9140 stones Carrying capacity: 64125 stones Helmets ('[') blessed helm of water breathing [+0, +4] [30s] uncursed crown of science [+4, +8] {Le+9} [65s] uncursed helm of teleportation [+0, +1] [50s] blessed eternium cap [+7, +8] [28s] -Smithed. If I had ever found a crown of regeneration, I'd have smithed that instead. Armor ('[') uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s] uncursed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5} [60s] uncursed white dragon scale mail (-1, -3) [+1, +11] [200s] Shields ('[') uncursed tower eternium shield (-1) [+13, +7] [70s] Gauntlets ('[') uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s] heap of 2 blessed pairs of thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+3, +1] [30s] uncursed gauntlets of strength (-1, +0) [+1, +1] {St+3} [40s] Girdles ('[') blessed adamantium girdle [+7, +5] [18s] -Smithed. It's nice to have backup equipment in case of fire. Boots ('[') blessed boots of speed [+2, +0] (+8 spd) [20s] blessed mithril boots (+1, +1) [+6, +7] [96s] -Smithed. uncursed seven league boots [+3, +0] [30s] blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s] heap of 2 uncursed pairs of seven league boots [+1, +0] [60s] blessed boots of the slow shuffle [-6, +1] (-40 spd) [20s] -I used these to kill the ancient blue wyrm. Very nice xp boost. uncursed seven league boots [+2, +0] [30s] uncursed seven league boots [+1, -2] [30s] -I kept finding these, so I had to pick them up, of course. None were wished for. Necklaces (''') uncursed sapphire amulet "Preserver" [+4, +4] {Wi+7} [3s] uncursed ankh [3s] blessed amulet of balance [3s] uncursed amulet of petrification resistance [3s] uncursed amulet of teleport control [3s] uncursed necklace of the eye [3s] blessed amulet of order [3s] uncursed amulet of water breathing [3s] uncursed amulet of light [3s] Bracers (',') uncursed bracers of speed [+0, +0] (+4 spd) [10s] One-handed weapons ('(') blessed pick axe (+0, 1d6+1) [75s] uncursed sword of Nonnak (+2, 4d3+2) [+2, +2] {Wi+5} [80s] blessed rune-covered long sword "Trusted One" (+1, 5d3) [+7, +7] [60s] uncursed jet-black battle axe "Executor" (+2, 5d6+6) [-4, +1] {St+3} (+3 spd) blessed swift eternium spear (+5, 2d8+8) [25s] blessed orcish spear of penetration (+3, 1d8+8) [75s] -The earth temple has never been so easy. blessed eternium long sword of hunting (+0, 2d8+7) [20s] uncursed rune-covered club "Skullcrusher" (+12, 3d6+2) [-3, +0] {St+4} uncursed black rune-covered dagger "Needle" (+8, 3d4) [+4, +1] [10s] Two-handed weapons ('(') uncursed quicksilver quarterstaff (+6, 5d3+5) [+3, +0] (+20 spd) [20s] uncursed axe of the minotaur emperor (+12, 3d20+16) [-6, +4] [1200s] blessed rune-covered trident (+6, 3d12+6) [+4, +4] {Dx+12} [80s] uncursed hammer of the gods (+1, 7d6+8) [-6, +0] [400s] -None of these artifact weapons were used to any significant amount. I just didn't think they deserved to be left behind. Missile weapons ('}') uncursed rune-covered sling "Whirlwind" (+12, +12) [3s] blessed heavy crossbow of accuracy (+12, +3) [140s] blessed long bow of accuracy (+8, +2) [30s] uncursed long bow of hunting (+6, +3) [30s] uncursed heavy crossbow of accuracy (+9, +3) [140s] *Snipped the long, boring lists of missiles and tools* Rings ('=') heap of 2 blessed rings of ice [2s] heap of 2 uncursed rings of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+4} [1s] heap of 19 blessed brass rings [19s] -I tried some exchange dipping halfway through the game, but after that I felt that getting 19 unnecessary wishes would just cheapen a victory. blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s] uncursed ring of speed [+0, +2] (+5 spd) [1s] uncursed ring of elemental mastery [+0, +0] [1s] uncursed ring of regeneration [1s] uncursed ring of slaying (+7 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s] blessed ring of invisibility [1s] *Snipped wands. Just your basic, everyday pile of wands* Potions ('!') heap of 2 uncursed potions of insight [4s] heap of 2 uncursed potions of uselessness [4s] heap of 9 uncursed potions of invisibility [36s] heap of 3 uncursed potions of cure corruption [6s] heap of 2 blessed potions of balance [8s] uncursed potion of confusion [2s] heap of 11 blessed potions of ultra healing [22s] uncursed potion of youth [4s] heap of 4 blessed potions of cure corruption [8s] heap of 10 potions of holy water [40s] blessed potion of raw chaos [2s] heap of 8 blessed potions of extra healing [16s] uncursed potion of exchange [4s] blessed potion of confusion [2s] heap of 4 uncursed potions of extra healing [8s] uncursed potion of blindness [2s] uncursed oil of rust removal [2s] blessed potion of exchange [4s] heap of 3 blessed potions of invisibility [12s] heap of 5 uncursed potions of boost learning [10s] heap of 31 uncursed potions of booze [124s] heap of 11 uncursed potions of carrot juice [44s] heap of 4 uncursed potions of cure poison [8s] heap of 7 uncursed potions of balance [28s] heap of 10 blessed potions of cure poison [20s] heap of 3 blessed potions of booze [12s] heap of 5 uncursed potions of water [20s] blessed potion of carrot juice [4s] blessed potion of youth [4s] Scrolls ('?') heap of 13 uncursed scrolls of darkness [26s] heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of satiation [8s] heap of 2 blessed scrolls of peace [4s] heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of balance [8s] heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of monster aggravation [4s] blessed scroll of familiar summoning [2s] heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of luck [6s] blessed scroll of uncursing [2s] blessed scroll of monster aggravation [2s] uncursed scroll of danger [2s] -I spent my only wish (at that time) on these when I was still level 18 so that I could change alignment and get crowned sooner. It definitely wasn't a wasted wish, as I never found another one throughout the entire game. heap of 14 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [28s] heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of item detection [6s] heap of 10 uncursed scrolls of charging [20s] heap of 4 blessed scrolls of light [8s] heap of 7 uncursed scrolls of light [14s] heap of 8 uncursed scrolls of vermin control [16s] blessed scroll of item detection [2s] heap of 2 blessed scrolls of darkness [4s] heap of 39 uncursed scrolls of identify [78s] uncursed scroll of increase melee damage [2s] uncursed scroll of gold detection [2s] heap of 4 blessed scrolls of great identify [8s] heap of 25 uncursed scrolls of power [50s] heap of 23 uncursed scrolls of great identify [46s] heap of 12 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [24s] heap of 5 uncursed scrolls of monster detection [10s] heap of 4 blessed scrolls of power [8s] heap of 9 uncursed scrolls of repair [18s] uncursed scroll of protection [2s] uncursed scroll of increase melee accuracy [2s] Books ('"') uncursed tract of order [250s] uncursed spellbook of Improved Fireball [100s] -The only book for any ball spell I found all game. It was found on D:50, after everything was dead. Hooray. uncursed spellbook of Knock [100s] uncursed spellbook of Magic Missile [100s] uncursed spellbook of Strength of Atlas [100s] uncursed spellbook of Teleportation [100s] Food ('%') heap of 160 uncursed cooked lizards [480s] heap of 14 blessed stomacemptia herbs [28s] heap of 10 uncursed stomacemptia herbs [20s] heap of 16 blessed curaria mancox herbs [32s] heap of 7 uncursed curaria mancox herbs [14s] uncursed fortune cookie [3s] Gems ('*') heap of 8 uncursed crystals of fire [8s] heap of 11 uncursed crystals of health [11s] heap of 28 uncursed crystals of darkness [28s] heap of 2 blessed crystals of fire [2s] heap of 5 blessed crystals of knowledge [5s] blessed crystal of light [1s] blessed crystal of health [1s] heap of 14 blessed crystals of power [14s] heap of 3 blessed crystals of darkness [3s] heap of 22 uncursed crystals of light [22s] heap of 3 uncursed crystals of power [3s] uncursed crystal of knowledge [1s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weapon Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Unarmed fighting 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 20 Daggers & knives 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 56 Clubs & hammers 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 65 Maces & flails 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25 Swords 5 +3 +2 +1 skilled 164 Axes 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25 Whips 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 25 Pole arms 14 +18 +11 +20 Mastery 6412 Twohanded weapons 1 +1 +1 +0 basic 25 Staves 4 +4 +1 +5 skilled 95 Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Slings 5 +10 +7 +1 skilled 13 Bows 8 +16 +12 +2 excellent 104 Crossbows 8 +16 +12 +2 excellent 24 -Sure I could train these higher, but it never feels necessary. Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- ------------- -------------- Shields 12 +24 Mastery 4651 Damage caused with your melee weapons: -------------------------------------- Right hand: +250 bonus to hit, 6d12+108 damage Damage caused with your missile weapons: ---------------------------------------- Ammunition: 99994, base range: 12, +137 bonus to hit, 1d2+68 damage -I can't imagine how hard I must be throwing these things. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alchemy ...................100 (superb) [+1d5] -Usually my PoGA recipe is Strength and Cure Corruption, but it was slightly better this time: Longevity and Cure Corruption. Still, I only managed to make two of these, because my longevity recipe required potions of oil - which I found virtually none of (and were wasted trying to make items rustproof). Appraising ................100 (superb) [+3d4] Backstabbing ..............100 (superb) [+3d4] Climbing ..................100 (superb) [+1d5] Concentration .............100 (superb) [+1d3] -My second wish, which was a ring I stole from the water dragon. She gave me a nice spear anyway. Cooking ................... 19 (mediocre) [+4d5] (mr) -Potion of education Detect item status ........100 (superb) [+1d5] Detect traps ..............100 (superb) [+1d5] Find weakness .............100 (superb) [+1] -My third wish, which was a ring found in a lesser vault in deep CoC. First aid .................100 (superb) [+1d5] Gemology ..................100 (superb) [+2d4] Haggling ..................100 (superb) [+2d4] Healing ...................100 (superb) [+1d3] -Potion of education. Very lucky, I know, but by the time I got this skill I didn't even remotely need it. Herbalism .................100 (superb) [+1d5] Listening .................100 (superb) [+1d5] Literacy ..................100 (superb) [+1d5] Metallurgy ................100 (superb) [+1d5] Mining ....................100 (superb) [+1d5] Pick pockets ..............100 (superb) [+2d4] Smithing ..................100 (superb) [+1d3] Stealth ...................100 (superb) [+1d3] -I'm not one of these weirdoes who mines out ten levels. You can make some very nice iron items with less than one level's worth of ore. Survival ..................100 (superb) [+1d3] Swimming ..................100 (superb) [+1d3] Tactics ...................100 (superb) [+1] Two weapon combat ......... 84 (great) [+1d5] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acid Ball : 13, 65pp (Effectivity: +0) Acid Bolt : 7, 28pp (Effectivity: +0) Bless : 661, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Burning Hands : 697, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Calm Monster : 249, 8pp (Effectivity: +1) Create Item : 469, 250pp (Effectivity: +0) Cure Disease : 667, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Cure Light Wounds: 859, 5pp (Effectivity: +0) Darkness : 675, 4pp (Effectivity: +0) Fire Bolt : 796, 10pp (Effectivity: +4) -I cooked some very menacing corpses with this. Fireball : 11, 37pp (Effectivity: +0) Frost Bolt : 911, 12pp (Effectivity: +1) Identify : 236, 75pp (Effectivity: +0) Improved Fireball: 8, 57pp (Effectivity: +0) Invisibility : 626, 10pp (Effectivity: +0) Knock : 1148, 12pp (Effectivity: +0) Light : 978, 3pp (Effectivity: +2) Lightning Bolt : 823, 12pp (Effectivity: +0) Magic Lock : 363, 8pp (Effectivity: +1) Magic Map : 11, 75pp (Effectivity: +0) Magic Missile : 790, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Neutralize Poison: 345, 10pp (Effectivity: +0) Scare Monster : 11, 22pp (Effectivity: +0) Slow Monster : 1789, 7pp (Effectivity: +0) Slow Poison : 757, 6pp (Effectivity: +0) Strength of Atlas: 722, 10pp (Effectivity: +2) Stun Ray : 379, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Summon Monsters : 521, 30pp (Effectivity: +0) Teleportation : 204, 20pp (Effectivity: +10) -This is clearly the main reason I wished for concentration. Web : 364, 12pp (Effectivity: +0) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His further life: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- After slaying Andor Drakon and dispersing his malevolent energies the pillars of Order appear before you. All the forces of Order seem to be united behind them. You are lifted to the status of an Avatar of Order and the tales of your deeds are spread all over Ancardia. Your deeds are recounted at camp fires and interpreted by philosophers and priests alike. The common man looks up to you and you slowly start to be revered as a minor power of Order. After a few millennia have passed you are raised to the position of a demi-god to guard and protect Ancardia from the forces of Chaos and Balance forever. Under your guidance Ancardia becomes an orderly and organized world without striking changes. Peaceful order (and boredom?) spreads and the world enters an era of peace and tranquility never again leaving it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His achievements during his adventures: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tubirt, the dwarven merchant, transformed into an avatar of Order. He scored 11450541 points and advanced to level 50. He survived for 0 years, 78 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 32 seconds (143074 turns). Tubirt visited 151 places. His strength score was modified by +12 during his career. His learning score was modified by +23 during his career. His willpower score was modified by +22 during his career. His dexterity score was modified by +28 during his career. His toughness score was modified by +20 during his career. His charisma score was modified by +13 during his career. His appearance score was modified by +21 during his career. His mana score was modified by +18 during his career. His perception score was modified by +15 during his career. He was the champion of the arena. He was a member of the thieves guild. He made a little water dragon very happy. He killed the emperor of the ancient minotaur race. -After I found two dead ends on level 6, all my scrolls of magic mapping were used up. I considered just leaving the emperor on his throne, since I don't have any practical reasons to kill him anyways. I decided to finish him off afterall when I got my hands on some crystals of knowledge. He defeated the arch enemy of a mighty karmic wyrm. He adhered to the principles of the Cat Lord and thus rose to great fame. He saved Khelavaster from certain death. -Luckily, I randomly found an AoLS somewhere. It was "electrum amulet" unidentified; usually those aren't worth picking up. -I also generated the cute dog alive, so that I could use that lawful boost to help me get to L+ after Gaab'baay's quests, but when I went back to save the dog at level 18, he attacked an injured cat I was trying to humanely dispose of. That's fine, my amulet of order had me at L+ by level 20, and into every Adom game some rain must fall. He ended his adventuring life in the palace of Andor Drakon. 9470 monsters perished under his attacks. The following 37 artifacts were generated during his adventure: the si the dwarven rune axe "Rolf's Companion" -I generated this just to feed it to the ratling. I always get more SoCR than I need from other sources anyway. the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle" -Ratling fodder. the ring of the master cat the golden gladius "Death's Sting" the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water the Chaos Orb of Elemental Air the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire the Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth the rune-covered long sword "Trusted One" -Crowning gift, unused. the lead-filled mace "Big Punch" -Ratling fodder. the rune-covered trident the sword of Nonnak the elemental gauntlets the ring of the High Kings the phial of Caladriel -Ratling fodder. the crown of science the ancient mummy wrapping the ankh the hammer of the gods -Uselessness. I thought shining silver bracers might make an appearance, but I wasn't that lucky. the Crown of Chaos the black torc -Ratling fodder. the Medal of Chaos the rune-covered club "Skullcrusher" -Dropped in blue dragon caves. the Chaos Orb of Elemental Mana the black rune-covered dagger "Needle" the rune-covered sling "Whirlwind" -Precrowning. I thought it might make a decent ratling snack, but decided to keep it around for firey situations. the fine leather armor "Nature's Companion" -Found in the casino. I used it after level 50, when the speed bonus would no longer have a negative effect on xp. the jet-black battle axe "Executor" -Found in the casino. Even though I knew I wouldn't use it, I bought it. I like rescuing all artifacts I come across. the robes of resistance -Found in darkforge, used until level 50. the staff of the archmagi -I never found this one. Then again, I don't pick up every 40 stone quarterstaff I come across. I wouldn't use it anyway. the sapphire amulet "Preserver" -I was very, very lucky to find this in a lesser vault in the unremarkable dungeon. It sure beats my precrown. the shining long spear "Soaker" -Stolen from a gremlin! Too bad it's awful. Ratling fodder. the Trident of the Red Rooster -I gave some guy a crumpled up paper for this. Man did he get ripped! Anyways, I wish you could get it soon enough in the game to really enjoy it. I got to clear the mana temple and D:50 with it, but that just isn't enough. the weird tome -I took a new approach to the library this time, which I thought of on the spot. Here's my ingenious strategy: waste 2000 turns, and then clear out the monsters. There's no monster generation in the library while everyone is still standing on their books, so the librarian is guaranteed to stay safe. I've lost him in unpleasant ways before, so this just seemed like a better idea. the rune-covered halberd "Wyrmlance" -Dang! I never found this, and definitely would have used it for two lesser vaults of "very experienced" ancient red dragons. Chances are it was only generated late, when I stopped picking up 50 stone halberds. Speaking of vaults, this is my second game in a row with zero greater vaults. I'm not bitter. the axe of the minotaur emperor -Some time I really should play a barbarian that uses this exclusively. It would break my spear addiction. He possessed the following intrinsics: He was fire resistant. He was poison resistant. He was acid resistant. He was lucky. Fate smiled upon him (enhanced through an item). He was doomed (gained through items). He was cursed (gained through items). He was petrification resistant (gained through items). -Both the medal and crown of chaos give this intrinsic, apparently. How redundant. He was able to control teleportation. -I was able to dispose of several blink dogs without losing my crowning. He was stun resistant (gained through an item). He was resistant to death rays (enhanced through items). -See that? Enhanced, not gained. I'm awesome. He was shock resistant. He was able to see invisible things (gained through items). He was immune to shock attacks. He was immune to fire attacks (gained through items). He was immune to acidic attacks (gained through an item). He was immune to ice attacks (gained through an item). He was able to breathe water (gained through items). He was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through an item). He had the following talents: Affinity with Polemarms, Alert, Basher, -Polemarms? Like schoolmarms? I didn't edit that, people. That's how the flg spells it. Of course, Adom still has the best proofreading in any freeware game, ever. Which just makes this stand out so much more. Careful, Defensive Fighter, Hardy, Immune to Pain, Iron Skin, Long Stride, Mighty Strike, Miser, Mithril Skin, Powerful Strike, Quick, Sixth Sense, Steel Skin, Tough Skin, Treasure Hunter. He had a final speed score of 402 (final base speed: 138). He was a messiah of Morodwyn. He asked for 3 divine interventions. -I prefer only praying for crownings/precrownings, but I knew that a merchant would need some rescuing in the early game. He was a holy champion of Order. The following monsters were vanquished: -It says up above that merely 9470 monsters were vanquished, and that includes over 3000 scummed gremlins. That means I killed less than 6500 monsters in actual fights - I don't think I've ever been that efficient. Challenge game idea: Win the game with minimum kills and no companions. Anyways, *mostly snipped* 34 animated trees -I initially got past the animated forest by mining my way around it, but that still forces you to fight the trees that spawn in your shortcut. 16 annihilators -One of these managed to get his fingers on my equipment once; fortunately, he wasted his opportunity on my ammo. 1 banshee -I got her to dispose of one of the two doppleganger kings that appeared in this game. I was very proud of my creative use of the environment. 4 blink dogs -Don't tell my god. He'll get mad. 58 chaos warriors -I found a room full of these in the rift. So much eternium! 38 chaos wizards -I mowed these down with humanoid slaying ammo from afar. I don't like dealing with extremely experienced chaos servants. 1 child -First kill. Not a very lawful thing to do, I know. But hey, you don't see me wearing a platinum girdle, do you? That's right. 1 doppleganger king -Had to kill him in darkness. Nothing else seemed to work. 1 dwarven artificer -Well I needed an anvil, and certainly didn't want to kill Glod. I actually forced Glod into the ogre cave, where he still fixes your gear but doesn't charge to use his forge. It's win/win. 2 ElDeR cHaOs GoDs -No, not really. 5 greater molochs -Mmm... experience... 20 harpies -A harpy sacrificed one of my earlier attempted merchants to her dark gods. Revenge was satisfying. 10 invisible stalkers -I didn't actually use my RotMC until level 50, so most of these were killed by accident. 1 multi-headed chaos dragon -Scariest fight of the game, because I had to keep reusing the same few dragon slaying quarrels, and because of a few dangerous missteps. 1 quickling bard -Burning hands is so effective here that it's almost ironic. 1 ratling trader -He refused to give me store credit. 155 zombies -Random monster quest. Once in a long while, the RNG actually gives me a good one. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Congrats!!! And I'm not a weirdo because I mine alot;D "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 5 hours, 45 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Question: Am I a weirdo for never mining nor smithing? (nor precrowning, for that matter?) You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Dunno, but I LOVE smithing. I've wished for the mining skill before if I don't get Hammerhead, so I can just kill glod. The earliest I go on mining/smithing sprees is around level 20, latest 40, since corruption starts to make me eager to get done. Besides, scrolls of protection/defense and magical writing sets aren't as common as gold. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5814 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Even with classes that don't start with mining or smithing, I find it to be worth buying smithing from Glod and building up a big pile of pickaxes for Glod to fix repeatedly. Smithing is easily trained by making ingots, because even if you "fail to extract metal from the ore" you still have the ore. Is that a bug or a feature? Either way, I exploit it. When you get smithing to 90+, you can easily make items that are far better than any you'll find naturally generated. Even with all this preparation, though, I never mine out more than one level, and I'll probably just do one smithing session, mostly involving iron items: gauntlets of strength, bracers/crown of regeneration (I never found a crown of regen in this game). I might then also beef up a mithril girdle and a dragon scale mail to use up higher ingots. Killing Glod isn't necessary. It's VERY easy to dispose of him humanely, if you have SLB's anyway. I've never tried without them. Anyways, keep walking around him and pushing him towards his door by changing places with him. When he's in his doorway, teleport to the other side of him and push him out of his shop. Or maybe you can just teleport him to begin with; I only thought of that possibility now. When he's out, lead him to any stairs and he'll follow you. I don't think I've ever written a scroll. I've never needed to (and I like keeping my mana points). As for Silfer's precrowning comment, I find that a single precrown really isn't hard to get. (The second one can be a huge drag.) A good precrown will help you in the early game when you get it, and a great precrown will help you for the entire game. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Yeah, a single precrown is EXTREMELY easy at level 8, especially if you find a lawful or chaotic altar in a good spot, like a hallway in a lawful's case. I did a test the other week, and it was this: Save, pray for precrown, then quit reload, and see what artifacts are generated, the results that I remembered were this: Very Common:Bracers of War, Preserver, Serpent's Bite, and Scorched Spear, ring of immunity. Common: Thunderstroke, Far Slayer, Staff of the Archmagi, Executor, Purifier. Not Common: Ironfist, Hammerhead. Rare:Sun's Messenger, Robes of Resistance, Crown of Leadership. Of course this was from memory/some stuff written down, but overall, this may say some things: If artifacts are generated upon game generation(which they are), then this means that all of the artifacts that I never got after over a hundred precrowns were going to be generated for that char, or that it is impossible to get some very powerful artifacts for precrowns, like Vanquisher for example. I may do this test again, and actually make percentages and statistics, but my results should give a good idea of precrowns, I think. Has anyone gotten any other artifacts for precrowns/postcrowns? Maybe you can get the other artifacts that I wasn't able to get for precrown for postcrownings.... "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4360 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
long sting,black thome seems to be in precrown list.but i might have memorry mess:) i'm more surprised to see sun's messenger. honestly i have never saw that artifact in game. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
I have gotten long sting too. And I've mabye gotten, but definately seen getting black tome described. "Smithing is easily trained by making ingots, because even if you "fail to extract metal from the ore" you still have the ore. Is that a bug or a feature? " This is a feature. I've once or twice, with very low skill and cursed ore, managed to get a message like "You fail to extract the ore, in addition you destroy the piece of iron ore". This would fit with how it is in RL. If you TRY to get the Cu out of CuO, if you manage it, well then you get the Cu metal. If you fail, what else but CuO would you have? So you could try again. I'm not sure just why you need a hammer and an anvil to get the iron out of ore, though. I would do it with a furnace and some simple chemicals... But I suppose mithril and adamantium and eternium are pretty dissimilar to earthly metals. ANYWAY Just closed gate with my priest winner. He is clearing up some things (gonna get the Trident of the Red Cock before I leave). So hes on his way to ID:87. And he just entered into BEST GREATER VAULT EVER contest. Background: The character had executor, serpents bite, wyrmlance and rune-covered trident and artifact crossbow (as in, needed no weapons when vault was found) The character had a ring of weakness The character had food preservation of 100. Okay, and now guess what kind of vault and what was found inside: Greater GIANT vault (gave me +35 str) Artifacts: PRESERVER + BRACERS OF WAR! (+long sting, just in case I wanted a bug slayer...) Any way to make it better? It was all the way down on D:47, so I really got exactly what I needed at the time. |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4360 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
nice vault Molach i have started precrown frequency test. once it reaches satisfying numbers results will be posted in seperate thread. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Thanks Soirana,I forgot about Black Tome and Long Sting to put down. both are fairly common. I guess Sun's Messenger should be put in Uber-rare, I only got it once according to what I wrote. Maybe it was a bug that I got it... "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5814 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Protector and Whirlwind are common precrowns for me. Molach: that is a very awesome greater vault. Not getting any greater vaults in a playthrough really annoys me, and I haven't gotten any in my last two games. Oh well. Also, long sting isn't a bug slayer, bugbiter is the only one. Here's the full list of artifacts that can be received anywhere (vaults, stores, precrowning, surges of power, uselessness, and other random generation). This list is composed from my experience and other threads and manuals that I've read before: Nature's Companion Robes of Resistance black tome of Alsophocus bracers of war Ironfist crown of Leadership Serpent's Bite Wyrmlance Scorched spear Hammerhead staff of the archmagi Purifier Soaker Skullcrusher Executor hammer of the gods Long Sting Whirlwind The Far Slayer Thunderstroke Preserver Ring of Immunity Protector The following artifacts can only be received through crowning: Shirt of the saints Perion's mithril plate mail boots of the divine messenger cloak of Oman Brannalbin's Cloak of Defense gauntlets of eternal peace Iron Crown of Havlor ebony spear "Bugbiter" mighty morning star "Grod" Vanquisher thin dagger "Cat's Claw" black long sword "Kinslayer" ancient claymore "Death's Blade" rune covered long sword "Trusted One" staff of the Wanderer holy avenger "Justifier" heavy cudgel "Black thumb" Sun's Messenger silvery arrow "True Aim" Aylas Holy Scarf intricate wooden shield "Nature's Friend" silver key Note that I've put Sun's Messenger in the second list, as the general consensus among Adomers has been that it's crowning-only. If you really can get it through a precrown, then it's extraordinarily rare. It's very unlikely that you'll ever get to use most of the artifacts in the second list, because they have a very small niche of availability. For example: bugbiter (the game's only bug slayer) can only be given to rangers, and even rangers only have a 1 in 6 chance of getting it. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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nOOb-mAsTeR Registered user Master of all things nOOby!!! Last page view: 5974 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Sorry, I forgot about protector and whirlwind. Though as I said before, maybe you can get some of the other artifacts only as 'post'crownings...but probably not. I think that Thomas Biskup made it like this so that you wouldn't being able to scum precrowns,since in my opinion,the second list has a lot of very nice artifacts that I would be patient enough to go for 2 or 3 precrowns, if I knew I could get them.Vanquisher,Trusted One,both cloaks,Iron Crown, and Nature's Friend are very good artifacts. "You try to give Fang, the large dog the bone. Fang, the large dog says,"Do you know who I am, mortal?!?!" My smartest dog ever:D |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5814 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Nature's friend is good? Are you kidding? My monk winner was lucky enough to be crowned with the iron crown of Havlor, and my archer got boots of the divine messenger, but that's about it. I'd like the chance to use more of these. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5352 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
There are some totally great artifacts in the first list as well. And a lot of crap in the other list. Vanquisher and Sun's messenger are the canditates for your hypothesis. And perhaps non-destructable cloaks. And mabye the iron crown, yes. All the rest is easily dispensed with, and I am pretty happy that many of them can NOT be generated naturally and therefore lower my chances for bracers of war/preserver or a humanoid slayer. Trusted one is good? Are you kidding? I've gotten it once, and it was like never used. I need weapon that deals damage, and this one just doesn't. No penetration, no slaying. It is good for early game, but I seldom have the luxury to get a crowning that early anyway, so two thumbs down for that. Resists? Bah. I can take care of that, gimme the power. On your the bright side, I agree vanquisher is kinda good. Wish I'll see it sometime. That's gotta be the best weapon whatsoever. Even if it doesn't slay insects or plants or animals :). By the way, does it need to be a giant slayer? Since it is a humanoid slayer? Arent all giants also humanoids? Or do the slaying stack? Like double slaying = double slaying effect? On your short list I would also add sun's messenger - that is very nice too. Undead slaying kinda situational. And natures friend is not good because +6 DV means you only can get +18 DV with full shield skill. While my last game my char had a few +13DV shields, which gives me +35 DV (only have 11 shield skill, but I could get +39 DV with 13) This game is a lot more melee than elemental-damage focused to that DV difference is very significant. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/9/2007 at 07:02 (GMT -5) by Molach] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 5 hours, 45 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Nature's Friend is king of crappiness. All I can say. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5814 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Even lust for glory (the +5, +5 shield that can't be generated in 1.1.1) is better than Nature's friend, because it has death ray, paralyzation and petrification resistence. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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